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Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 09:27 AM Sep 2015

Black Women Are Driving the Rebirth of the Labor Movement

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The Wall Street Journal reports that women have been increasingly part of the labor movement since the early ‘80s, and are expected to make up the majority of union workers by 2025. Many of them are joining in traditionally low-wage sectors like fast food, where women and minorities are more likely to be employed. In 2014, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, men and women were union members at nearly equal rates: 11.7 percent of men and 10.5 percent of women. Compare that to 1983, when 24.7 percent of men in the workforce were unionized, compared with only 14.6 percent of women.

While those numbers show in depressing relief how fast and far union membership in America has fallen, the good news is that unions are still surviving, becoming more diverse (black workers are now the most likely to be unionized, according to the BLS), and moving into new fields. Fight for $15 is making real gains in the fast food industry and new media organizations are unionizing one right after the other these days (ahem). Latino workers still have the lowest rates of union membership, a gap that labor organizations are trying hard to close.

At NBC, Kimberly Freeman Brown points out the other labor organizations led by black women: the National Domestic Workers Alliance, North Carolina’s Forward Together Moral Movement, and Wisconsin Jobs Now, among others. They’re among the women profiled in Freeman Brown’s And Still I Rise, a report and “love letter” to black women in labor released this year.

But, as always, this is a struggle in progress: And Still I Rise pointed out that while black women are joining unions in strong numbers, they’re not being promoted to leadership positions. Less than three percent of women surveyed had held an elected position of any kind, and less than five percent had been president of their union or labor organization.

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From the comments, so true!:

miamayaAnna Merlan
9/07/15 2:40pm

If Black women were the only demographic allowed to vote the U.S. would have a living minimum wage, universial healthcare, labor rights, well funded public schools.etc. Black women voters are typically progressive and emphathetic on social policies.. They are more likely to vote for the collective good. Unfortuately a signficant percentage of Whites in the U.S. vote, not for the greater good, but mainly to keep Brown people from benefiting from “their” tax dollars.
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Black Women Are Driving the Rebirth of the Labor Movement (Original Post) Starry Messenger Sep 2015 OP
I supported, as much as I was able to, marym625 Sep 2015 #1
I think of Black Women when I think of BLM, for instance. That is what I remember seeing. randys1 Sep 2015 #2
Great article and comment SM! lovemydog Sep 2015 #3
Same here. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #4
Great points SM. lovemydog Sep 2015 #5
I did, very lazy! Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #6
Good! Glad you got a lot of rest. lovemydog Sep 2015 #7
"I feel like there is a lot of effort expended to chase after the Joe Lunchbox vote" YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #8
It's true, and they aren't handling the new reality very well. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #11
That comment makes me want to.... Number23 Sep 2015 #9
Right?? Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #10
But like the commenter said, far too many white people have allowed themselves to see us Number23 Sep 2015 #12
It's like a galactic force-shield of hate. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #13
Excellent questions! scarletwoman Sep 2015 #14
Hi SW! I am loving your posts today. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #15
Thanks! You said it better than I did! scarletwoman Sep 2015 #16
*mind blown* Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #17
It's great to see you and sw hashing this out. Because this is one of those things that poc can't Number23 Sep 2015 #18
Great point here JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #19
Pinfeathers?? Number23 Sep 2015 #23
I was a bookworm little girl! JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #28
I really believe all of this too, Number 23. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #20
The racist morons observe white people like me discuss this issue and they randys1 Sep 2015 #21
Yes, white people come up with a lot of reasons why racism can't be fixed. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #22
In that thread, Starry Messenger had a whole avalanche of Fail fall on her for daring to suggest Number23 Sep 2015 #25
I know. That's why I laugh every time I see someone (always white) claiming that racism will "die Number23 Sep 2015 #24
an ugly truth is DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #26
more proof more women of all colors MFM008 Sep 2015 #27

marym625

(17,997 posts)
1. I supported, as much as I was able to,
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 09:38 AM
Sep 2015

the Fight For $15 movement in Chicago.

The first event I attended was a showing of Selma. After the movie there were a few speeches then a discussion. All the speakers were young, black, working women. It was obvious some were nervous, probably one of their first public speaking appearances. But they did a great job.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. I think of Black Women when I think of BLM, for instance. That is what I remember seeing.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 01:16 PM
Sep 2015

Yes, if Black Women got their way, every single American including the one percent would be much much much better off.


But therein lies your problem, it cant include Brown people, and if it does, you know who aint happy.

I cant get over the white supremacist racists I deal with online who assure me they don't have a racist bone in their body, they challenge me to prove they are racist and then they proceed to post racist comment after racist comment.

They actually dont believe they are racists, thus is white privilege.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
3. Great article and comment SM!
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 02:59 PM
Sep 2015

Thanks for sharing it here.

It's a struggle in progress. I love my black sisters because they really do fight for justice and equality and a more humanitarian society. Much love!

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
4. Same here.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 03:08 PM
Sep 2015

I hope more Black women will pursue leadership in the unions.

There is an article in GD today about how Southern white men are turning away from labor because of conservative scare tactics. This article and that one made me think of things we've discussed in this group about the future of progressive politics and the demographics of voting.

I feel like there is a lot of effort expended to chase after the Joe Lunchbox vote, and not enough attention paid to where positive growth is being made in the movement.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
5. Great points SM.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 03:11 PM
Sep 2015

I too would like to see black women taking more leadership roles in unions and in all forms of business, the criminal justice system, education and politics. We all gain from their expertise and experience. Thanks again. Did you enjoy a nice Labor Day weekend?

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
6. I did, very lazy!
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 03:15 PM
Sep 2015

I was fighting a cold, all the students have been passing it around. But I rested, and used it as an excuse to binge-watch House of Cards.

I hope you had a nice weekend!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
7. Good! Glad you got a lot of rest.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 03:21 PM
Sep 2015

I'm on to the last three hours of House of Cards. The Prez and first lady sure are taking a lot of hits. The Russian Prez is a great character, pretty funny. Also started watching Narcos, got into the first five hours. It's a great story, about Pablo Escobar and the drug trade in Columbia.

Yeah, I got a lot of work don't around the yard & house. End of summer repairing & cleaning. Getting ready for the football season too, by reading about all the off-season stuff. Ready for the first week starting Thursday!

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
8. "I feel like there is a lot of effort expended to chase after the Joe Lunchbox vote"
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:11 PM
Sep 2015

Well, historically the public image of the labor movement - and by extension, the Democratic Party voting base - was white and male. Too many in the older generation (including the Boomers) haven't been paying attention to what has happened since then.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
11. It's true, and they aren't handling the new reality very well.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:00 AM
Sep 2015

At least some, by the tone of discussions here on DU and other political spaces.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
9. That comment makes me want to....
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:44 PM
Sep 2015
If Black women were the only demographic allowed to vote the U.S. would have a living minimum wage, universial healthcare, labor rights, well funded public schools.etc. Black women voters are typically progressive and emphathetic on social policies.. They are more likely to vote for the collective good. Unfortuately a signficant percentage of Whites in the U.S. vote, not for the greater good, but mainly to keep Brown people from benefiting from “their” tax dollars.


Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
10. Right??
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:58 PM
Sep 2015

People should be shouting more about Black voter disenfranchisement. If the US could get a million+ more Black women with their votes not being suppressed, this country would be the leading nation in progressive reform.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
12. But like the commenter said, far too many white people have allowed themselves to see us
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:06 AM
Sep 2015

as their enemy. So, they will vote against US even if doing so does primarly means that they are voting against THEMSELVES.

Never underestimate the power of racism. It is a force stronger and more enduring than any other in our nation's history. And as you can see every single day on this web site, even those who love to bray the loudest about how "liberal" and "progressive" they are are not immune.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
13. It's like a galactic force-shield of hate.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:23 AM
Sep 2015

It's so irrational, it can't be penetrated. If the energy expended by some white liberals here against Black DUers (or anywhere else this all goes down) had been spent doing some kind of real world activity to help Black voters or something similar, this country would be like another place.

You can tell what people care about by the energy and emotion they put into it. If only half of that was put into supporting the allies they don't recognize--all these white people crying for more public programs would see their goals realized in short work if they weren't looking for friends in all the wrong places. Do they think the achievement won't be authentic if it isn't done by all white voters? Or on their terms? I am still working through these questions too. Maybe they don't really want what they say they want?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
14. Excellent questions!
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:43 AM
Sep 2015
Do they think the achievement won't be authentic if it isn't done by all white voters? Or on their terms? I am still working through these questions too. Maybe they don't really want what they say they want?


I dunno - maybe we're just like dogs chasing cars. We don't have any idea of what we would actually DO with a car if we caught it!

For a white liberal, it's easy to fulminate that you want equality for all. In fact, polite agitation is sort of our identity. If we had to confront actually achieving our stated goals, we'd lose our sense of ourselves, we'd be lost!

Better to do our fulminating behind strict boundaries - so we don't end up having to actually change things. That could get rather uncomfortable.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
15. Hi SW! I am loving your posts today.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:53 AM
Sep 2015

God, could that be it? I'd hate to think it was something like that! But that has a ring of plausibility to it...the state of moving to change would shift reality to a new place. People would lose their accustomed roles, or so it would seem?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
16. Thanks! You said it better than I did!
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 01:04 AM
Sep 2015
...the state of moving to change would shift reality to a new place. People would lose their accustomed roles...


Seriously, I do believe that's at least part of what's going on.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
17. *mind blown*
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 01:09 AM
Sep 2015

I will have to absorb this. That honestly had never occurred to me before. But it speaks to many of the details at hand...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
18. It's great to see you and sw hashing this out. Because this is one of those things that poc can't
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 03:14 AM
Sep 2015

fix for y'all. Every time we talk about racism and how it affects us we are accused of "tossing the race card" and "telling white people to shut up." So this is really something that white people will have to fix for themselves.

I'm not white but I honestly think that for alot of white people, that the task sometimes seems to daunting. It seems too huge to fix. And that combined with the fact that they honestly don't believe that racism affects THEM and too many white people are all too happy to just let the next generation fix it.

But the problem with that is that, racism affects every single person on this planet. Every single time a minority is prevented from reaching their full potential because people don't expect greatness from people who look like him or her, that affects ALL of us. I'm always talking about my grandmother in this regard. She is one of the most brilliant people I have ever known. There was no issue this woman couldn't fix and she read Kafka for fun -- as a TEENAGER.

But because of racism, and likely to a lesser extent sexism, she was only ever allowed to be a school teacher. And she was a damn good one but in another world, she could have been president. And we are all lessened as a result of the bigotry that kept her and millions of others down and denied their brilliance and their contributions because it didn't come in pre-approved packages.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
19. Great point here
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 04:50 AM
Sep 2015

[div class="excerpt"]But because of racism, and likely to a lesser extent sexism, she was only ever allowed to be a school teacher. And she was a damn good one but in another world, she could have been president. And we are all lessened as a result of the bigotry that kept her and millions of others down and denied their brilliance and their contributions because it didn't come in pre-approved packages.


My dad's mom - the same.

My Gramfeathers - I've posted about her back here before . . . A woman whose mother was a suffragist, grandfather fled West Virginia for fear his he would be put in a position of having to treat (he was a physician) Confederate soldiers (border of VA) . . . Who took his abolitionist underground railroad stop parents with him - she had great hope for you and me. How is it a white woman born in Denver Colorado in 1904 could have so much hope for us and our ability to transform the country?

The few years before here death was when I got into the works of Faludi and Wolf. She read those books - she wanted to understand this new feminism. This is the early 1990's. She pointed out to me - I have this in one of the crazy letters she wrote me "Pinfeathers, you aren't in there. And that's a good thing. They can't see you coming in the back door."

I'm pretty sure she left this earth believing that transformation of the American experience would come from the day to day work of black women - just from the fact that not being the beauty standard freed us up to focus solely on accomplishment.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
23. Pinfeathers??
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:51 PM
Sep 2015

I'm sure there is an AWESOME explanation for that nickname!

Not that I can talk myself. My grandfather gave me some of the weirdest nicknames in humanity. And everytime I remember him, I remember those names.

How is it a white woman born in Denver Colorado in 1904 could have so much hope for us and our ability to transform the country?

Your gram sounds wonderful. You have a really interesting family history.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
20. I really believe all of this too, Number 23.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:40 AM
Sep 2015

Racism was and is caused by whites and we are all complicit in it as white people. It's not Black people's problem to fix.

It does seem huge, and every time these freaky race conversations erupt out in the big forums, you can see just a corner of the huge white wall of resistance. The next generation isn't going to fix it either, the last poll I saw, something like 48% of white millennials think racism against whites is a thing and a problem, so...that's coming down the pipe.

Your grandmother sounds awesome, N23. I wish I'd been able to meet her. She should have been President. And so many others, too! God knows there are plenty of white people going around thinking they are brilliant, and sucking down resources, who are really not at all even a candle's worth of light.

It chokes the potential bandwidth of the country and the planet to keep the wonderful Black humans silenced and marginalized. Racism is a moral evil, and is harmful to Black people, but like you said, keeping things this way also poisons the entire society. I don't know the best way to explain it to other white people, but I guess if I keep working on it, if other white people try to work on that, maybe we can chip away a little bit at the rockface.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
21. The racist morons observe white people like me discuss this issue and they
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:07 PM
Sep 2015

cant refute the reality and facts so they say ridiculous shit like if we really supported POC we would donate all our money to reparations, etc.

or whatever nonsensical comment they come up with.

They know they are wrong, about everything, and that is why they are so angry at us all the time.

But then we white liberals who support minority groups are less effective than we otherwise could be because we cant EVER know what it is like, as we cant know what a Trans or Gay person deals with.

It is all abstract to us, even though we do and say the right things.

If you are a con reading this, one of my many fans who really hates me because I am SO supportive of Black folk and Gay folk, all I have to say is:

you wouldnt know a good time or the truth if it fell out of the sky, landed on your dumb stupid face, and wiggled




stupid bigots

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
22. Yes, white people come up with a lot of reasons why racism can't be fixed.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:34 PM
Sep 2015

But things change in history all of the time, and it is up to humans to change them. It's not only white conservatives who are reactionary, sadly.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
25. In that thread, Starry Messenger had a whole avalanche of Fail fall on her for daring to suggest
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:03 PM
Sep 2015

that white people do more listening than talking. That was the entirety of her point. That white people should do more listening than talking on matters of racism.

For that non-controversial, fucking common sense statement in an OP about white people not ever wanting to talk intelligently and honestly about race, she incurred the wrath of almost a half dozen posters, many of whom either don't post in minority forums or who have EXPLICITLY been asked not to. And I'm sure you'll see them in thread after thread after thread patting themselves on the back with how "liberal" they are and how everyone that doesn't agree with them are crypt-fascist Third Way right wing doody heads any day now. It would be funny if it wasn't so stupid and nonsensical.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
24. I know. That's why I laugh every time I see someone (always white) claiming that racism will "die
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:58 PM
Sep 2015

out" when all the old racists die. Racism is nowhere near dying out. Like you said, millenials are every bit as racist as their parents. White liberals are no more immune from racism than white conservatives.

I saw that poll about the millenials and it just made me weep. I also saw another poll where a sizeable number of white people said that racism against white people is actually GREATER than racism against minorities. I also posted another poll that said that almost 1/3 of white people in TWO THOUSAND AND FUCKING FIFTEEN still think it's okay to discriminate against black people in housing situations. It is going NOWHERE.

And even on a "liberal" web site, a discussion about white people's reluctance and inability to intelligently discuss racism in a healing way brings out the cries of victimhood -- from white people of course. It is going NOWHERE.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
26. an ugly truth is
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:30 PM
Sep 2015

The labor unions shunned AfroAmericans and Hispanics in the 60's and 70's, and sorry to say, you can hear a lot of that tone deafness when you listen to the tape of Bernie sanders supporters screaming at "You People!" at the Bernie Sanders rally when Kamala Harris spoke. What got people ticked is that Blacks and Browns really got tired of hearing about this wonderful mythical postwar era where everything was wonderful, save for the fact that they know none of that was ever meant for them, and whatever piece of that pie they got was gained at the cost of dirty looks at best, and a whole lot worse. Let's not even joke about how the Unions would make huge loans to Mafiosi, the sort of money that literally built Las Vegas, but never thought of tossing a few pennies to blacks or browns.

I am for Labor, I believe that it is the only thing that will save this nation, and for that matter, the planet, but as long as the leaders of labor ignore the blacks and browns that are getting screwed over by fat cats, than the fat cats will gladly play us against each other until they fulfill every one of their fantasies, the sort that make lower-end sci-fi and torture porn look cute and fuzzy.

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