Update-Our dear sister, bravenak, received a second letter from Mr. Citizen.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/118724750






Mr. Citizen, you are a pusillanimous punk.

[leftofcool]

1. Indeed she did.

That's two counts. I just talked to our attorney and according to him, stalking through snail mail is a federal offense and cyber stalking is now a federal offense in 49 states.

[brush]

93. So what does the second letter say?

The image in the OP just seems to show the envelope.

[steve2470]

2. a second one ????

This punk is begging to be bagged by the US Postal Inspector's office. Totally off topic, but I reported a theft of my money via postal mail years ago. It was an ebay auction. To my knowledge, they have never caught the person. I'm sure a $200 theft ranks pretty low on their radar.

[dflprincess]

106. I had a package the post office left on doorstep stolen a couple years ago

the contents were only worth about $100. I did report to the local post office though, without a witness there was nothing to do about it - but they did tell me its a $10,000 fine even for something with such a small value.

So if they can figure it out who did it, they may think it's worth it.

[steve2470]

108. yea it's been like ten years since I reported the mail fraud

The culprit was an ebay user who probably used a fake throwaway email address and other nefarious means. I'd be shocked if they catch the culprit after so many years.

[dflprincess]

116. I read too fast an missed your "years ago" phrase in your post

I'd be shocked too - just hope the creep pulled this more than once and if s/he didn't get caught for stealing from you they go caught when it was tried again.

[steve2470]

117. I hope so too, that creep needs to face justice nt

[HassleCat]

3. This might be criminal

There's no threat of physical harm, but there's a definite threat of more harassment for exercising her free speech. This is bad shit.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I have a copy of the envelope in my DU mail box.

I have the internet skills of a ten year old or I would make a copy of it, block out Bravenak's legal name, and post it here.

[steve2470]

8. try this

1- Go to Windows accessories, find Snipping Tool, make a screenshot of it.

2- Go to Windows accessories again, find Paint, put that image in Paint, use a paintbrush etc to scratch out her name. Save the altered image.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. If you want to try, bro, I'll send it to you.

eom

[steve2470]

12. sure, send it to me

I will delete and destroy the original image, I promise everyone!

[steve2470]

16. also done! lol

You get to choose the best scrubbing job LOL Kurska is probably better than me.

eta: I'm destroying the image now.

eta2: To be extra careful, I deleted everything in my Inbox you sent me and also my scrubbed image. Nothing remains.

[George II]

52. Did you wipe your hard drive, you know, "like with a cloth"?

[steve2470]

97. yea, that comment made me wince a bit :) nt

[lunamagica]

5. Well, this should be enough to get serious attention

from the authorities and getting the coward criminally charged.

What was the content of the letter this time?

[gollygee]

6. I just see the same letter as before

Do you have a link directly to the second letter?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I will PM it to you.

If you have internet skills, block out her name, and post it:

[gollygee]

10. I fear I have a lack of skills

I'm so disturbed that she's gotten a second one.

[Kurska]

13. I can do that it and PM it back to you

I'm sickened this is happening to her. It really sound serious.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. I will PM the entire convo to you

[Kurska]

15. Done EOM

[Starry Messenger]

7. Sickening. :(

[boston bean]

17. Might I suggest to the owners of the site, that people expect

that when they visit here to have some modicum of safety and that owners understand the concerns of the community, a community that truly does make this place a success and allows them a living from it.

I realize they aren't responsible for the mail and can't possibly anticipate or prevent everything, but they are responsible for the atmosphere that has now come to this level.

They could do a few things to make it better. I don't know that they will.

[Gormy Cuss]

102. I'd suggest something stronger.

This bullshit aimed at the African-American members of this site needs to be addressed head-on. Too much racist stuff is allowed to stand here as a difference of opinion. It's time to correct the moderation here because the jury system just doesn't do it.

[steve2470]

19. No one did....

Please don't jump to erroneous conclusions. Someone stalked her and found out enough to find her real address.

[mcar]

21. Oh do keep blaming the victim

So nice that you have sympathy for someone being stalked. How,pray tell, is she "fanning the flames?" Actually don't bother telling me. I don't want to know your thought processes.

[mcar]

25. You go ahead and do that

Where in any of this does it say that bravenak gave out personal info on DU? No one is safe online. It still sucks that someone on this board has gone to such lengths to stalk another DUer.

[SMC22307]

26. Yes, this message being shared with her personal address...

is disconcerting. I wonder if she's OK with it being shared like it is.

[Cha]

68. It doesn't matter.. it's NO Excuse for a fucking stalker through the FED US Mail System.

[SMC22307]

77. No one is offering it up as an excuse. (n/t)

[Cha]

85. Oh there was one person on this thread but he wisely self deleted after he got called on it by

several people.

[SMC22307]

96. I'd recommend that folks be careful with sharing images...

because I learned her name from what was posted in the OP's edits. From there, it's easy to learn her address and phone number. Also, it's not too bright that another poster keeps going on about who she lives with. Discretion...

[Cha]

130. This is a thread to support Bravenak. I support her. Fuck the asshole who Stalked her through the

US Fucking Mail System. No Fucking Excuse. So she has her address for all to see .. lots of people do. Not everybody HIDES.

And, yes I'm pissed.

[SMC22307]

134. You're hiding, aren't you? I can think of only a handful of DUers...

who are public with their identities. I try to be as private as possible. This isn't condoning the letter at all, but just a wish for people to consider discretion and to realize there are a lot of nuts out there (like the whackos at CC who are obsessed with this topic).

[Cha]

136. It doesn't matter what I do.. this is not about ME. This is about Bravenak. Some people don't feel

the need to Hide. I support that choice.

[leftofcool]

29. Oh FFS!

Try reading the original thread.

[aikoaiko]

28. Nevermind.

I had posted something about not posting links to her social media, but googling her DU username gets one there anyway.

And really it doesn't matter. Even if she posted her name and address in giant font in GD, there is still no excuse for this harassment.

[SMC22307]

24. I think she's shared her name, but am not aware of her sharing her address.

The edits in the OP reveal her name. Why are people being so careless if "safety" is an issue? Knowing her name, one can find her Facebook, her LinkedIn, her YoutTube, etc., who she's in a relationship with, where she's worked, where's she's studied, etc. There's no way in hell I'd mix DU with my "official" online life, but I'm cautious that way.

[Number23]

101. Thanks so much for your awesome and important contribution to this topic.

[SMC22307]

103. You're quite welcome. (n/t)

[Number23]

107. Now that you've gotten it all out of your system, I think we can take it from here

Thanks.

[NuclearDem]

33. Oh, piss off.

[Cha]

38. Jury results.. 2-5 LEAVE.. I was #5 but I see I'm not the only one who felt like this..

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"piss off" ...not fit to say in any forum or group

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:35 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Someone has sent a letter to the home of a DU member. Not once, but now twice! To the home she shares with her small children. This person is clearly an idiot. How much so, we don't know yet. Will he or she show up on her doorstep? Is this just a stupid prank? Or, a true sicko. The AA group is hurt, angry, concerned. Their friends and allies are concerned. Hell, even some of their enemies are concerned. Do you really want to focus on the words, "piss off", right now? Really??? Should we stop and worry about this. Really??? Priorities, people!!!
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The person this post was directed to should, indeed, piss off.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: You mean you're not impressed by this well thought out counter argument?
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Normally, it might be worth a hide but not in this case. The person it's directed to actually does need to do this.

Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh. This is pretty mild imho.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

[Gormy Cuss]

104. Props to you, Cha. n/t

[Cha]

132. Gormy Cuss~

[sheshe2]

125. Thank you Cha!

[Cha]

131. Hey she~

[sheshe2]

135. Sorry I have not really talked to you in awhile.

I've been wading through a pool of shit in RL~

Love you.

[Cha]

137. I'm sorry about that..

I know what you mean, she.. there's always some shite going on in real life too.. unless you're one of those Lucky Ones that nothing bad ever happens!

And, then sometimes it's all at once!

she

[sheshe2]

139. Give me a little time.

I will mail you soon.
Hug!

[JustAnotherGen]

36. Group Host - I'm going to make it easy for you ALBliberal block

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But I'm going to brek our rules. I'm not giving a warning. I'm copying and pasting the disruptive posts by someone who states they are going back to "ignoring these threads" - and blocking you.

Don't pm me - I will be blocking you from doing so momentarily.


ALBliberal (406 posts) 
18. Why in the world was a physical address ever given out?

I have no sympathy. No one should be giving out addresses on this forum. This drama is not at all what I want to read about or be subjected

to.


Response to steve2470 (Reply #19)Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:25 PM
ALBliberal (406 posts) 
20. she's giving out way too much information if she was tracked in that way

I can have sympathy for her error there but I think she is fanning the flames...this stalker is getting way too much attention 

I do wish her the best and a safe future
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23. so you think it's wise to give enough information out that posters

On an online forum can track an address? I hope it's a po box and not a physical address. And you think it's also ok to share mail from a non trusted source with the same forum possibly feeding into this unknown and non trusted source's ego....for what purpose? How does any of this help bravenak or make him or her safer? 

I point these things out and you say I am blaming the victim? 

Going back to ignoring these threads

[DanTex]

63. It wasn't. She used the same screen name here as elsewhere. Probably didn't think that

some psycho was going to track her down IRL. Mistake? Sure. No sympathy? You're an asshole. If you don't want to read about this, then click somewhere else. That's how the internet works.

Dear jury: this person is, in fact, an asshole. Read the OP and the post I'm responding to.

[irisblue]

22. Please, has this second letter been reported to the police?

and do the Admins know?
Bravanek, I stand with you.
::edited for clarity::

[tblue37]

27. In the previous thread Skinner said he is in touch with her and has promised to do

anything he can to help.

[irisblue]

30. sorry I meant the second letter as well as the first

[tblue37]

31. Oh. I am sure he has been alerted. nt

[SwankyXomb]

142. I think the admins have shown by their inaction

that they give zero thought about what happens on the site or to the users as long as the clicks keep rolling in.

[dumbcat]

147. How do you know they haven't taken any actions?

You have some inside info we don't have?

[tularetom]

34. "Mr Citizen" is indeed a low life piece of shit

I can't express how pissed off I am about his actions and the fact that he claims to be a supporter of Senator Sanders, because if I did, I would probably be tombstone here.

However, unless there is something more explicit in his second letter that I haven't yet read, I don't think the "threats" he made to Bravenak in the first letter rose to the level of a crime. The tone was intimidating and the fact that he went to the trouble of finding her mailing address is disturbing, but all he really threatened to do was alert on her posts when she returns to DU.

It bothers me that anyone on an online forum has to suffer an invasion of their privacy, and particularly when it happens to somebody like Bravenak, whom I often disagree with but consider a class human being.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

57. I think what happened is that this dirtbag "Mr Citizen"

knew that if he had posted that message on DU he'd have been removed or at least given a long time-out. But for whatever warped reason, known only to him, he just felt he had to get his nasty message to Bravenak, so somehow he figured out who she was and where she lived (I'm told this is possible if a person has a presence on other social media and the stalker is obsessed enough to follow the electronic breadcrumbs) and sent her his shitty message via USPS.

I don't understand why anyone would care that intensely about what a total stranger says on an Internet message board, but Bravenak sure doesn't deserve to be stalked and intimidated like that. I don't care what she might have said - if "Mr. Citizen" didn't like it he could have just taken a deep breath, turned off the computer and gone for a walk.

"Mr. Citizen," whoever you are, please go the hell away.

[Half-Century Man]

35. Will the source of this image please PM me?

[Glassunion]

37. That top envelope has a return to sender label on it.

It was undeliverable. Does not make sense.

[gollygee]

39. They put her address as the return address too

Maybe they made a typo in the address spot, but it would get returned to her since they used her address in the return address spot as well.

[Glassunion]

40. If the two addresses "To" and "Return" were the same

And there was a typo in them, it would be undeliverable and end up with dead letters at the post office. I'm just confused by it.

[gollygee]

41. Maybe there was a typo in one spot and not the other

It obviously got to her one way or the other.

[Glassunion]

43. True. If both addresses were identical, save for the typo in the "To" address

It would have made it to her just fine. It was the Anchorage post office that determined it was undeliverable after it was sent from Tampa from what I can tell on the labels.

[LittleBlue]

48. So what does that mean?

Apologies, I've only just stumbled into this saga and sorting through all these threads about the same incident. This makes no sense.

[Glassunion]

49. From what I can read on the labels is that a letter

From Tampa FL, made it to her. If the blurred out addresses are identical save for a typo, or if the "To" address was fictional and the "Return" her real address, the letter would have made it to the intended sender.

[Squinch]

56. The zip codes appear to be different, so it would have gone back to the sender, but the sender

was listed as her address in Anchorage, and yet the letter was clearly not posted from Anchorage, it came from Florida.

[Cosmic Kitten]

42. NIXIE??? Who's punking who?

https://ribbs.usps.gov/move_update/documents/tech_guides/UAAReturnLabels/NIXIE_UAA_Label.pdf

[LittleBlue]

45. What the hell?

Why would it have a return to sender label? And why is that censored out?

No one in GD would tell me anything, just loads of vague references.

[NutmegYankee]

54. The letter was addressed to a fake address

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And the return address was the actual target. When the mail service goes to return it as undelivered, they send it to the return address. Super creep thought they were being clever, except USPS marks the stamp at the point of origin - in this case zip code 335xx, Florida.

[LittleBlue]

55. Gotcha

The sender was dumb. That isn't clever at all. It's time for the police/FBI.

[Cosmic Kitten]

60. Clever, eh?

I noticed that the return address'
have two different zip codes?
99501 and 99508

Guess Mr Citizen wasn't sure of the addy?

And what's up with the hand written addy?
Mr Citizen hand wrote the addy
but not the letter?

Surely Bravenak can use that to CSI the PUNK!

[OilemFirchen]

65. Many people do not know how to format and/or print an envelope.

Likewise with labels.

For that matter, most in my experience.

Gonna take that leap and suggest the letter's not real?

C'mon! Everybody's doin' it!

[Cosmic Kitten]

66. Clearly the letter is "real"

It's right there for all to see

[OilemFirchen]

75. No.

That's a photograph of envelopes that bravenak allegedly received.

Do try to keep up with your fellow skeptics, okay?

[Cosmic Kitten]

79. Oh, OK!

Yes, that is a digital copy of an alleged letter.

It appear that there is a physical letter
which was digitally reproduced and posted
to the interweb.

As to the authenticity

Sure is creating a lot, A LOT of angst!

[kwassa]

87. Speaking as a host of this forum, this is your first and last warning.

Consider where you are, and what this group is about.

[sheshe2]

119. I truly hope you are not saying she lied.

I truly hope I read you wrong.

That's a photograph of envelopes that bravenak allegedly received.

[OilemFirchen]

122. C'mon sheshe...

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/118725126#post91

[sheshe2]

124. thanks for clarifying.

I am so frightened for bravenak.

[DRoseDARs]

83. Not necessarily, no. Backwards B Girl? Her story fell apart real quick.

This is different, of course, because the asshole mailed the letters from Florida, whereas bravenak lives in Alaska. If she were faking, she'd have to go through more effort than just mailing herself. No, this looks to be quite real from where I'm sitting. However, you can't rely on assumptions, that's why this must be left to the police to investigate. I had to stop someone downthread who was engaging in a bit of unintended doxing of a potentially innocent person.

[Cosmic Kitten]

90. I remember a "detective story" Holms, Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew...

Where a letter was mailed to a faraway place
inside another envelope, and a confederate
then put the target envelope in the mail
to establish a post mark which absolved
the perpetrator of suspicion

Kinda like someone sending a package to a cousin
and then the cousin mails an envelope within
the package back to the first cousin?

but that's just CT, right?

[DRoseDARs]

92. And again, this needs to be left to the police to investigate.

IF bravenak is faking, it will be super-easy for them to uncover that. I don't think she's faking, but my opinion and your opinion and anyone else's opinions don't matter. Only a proper investigation by the proper authorities does.

[Cosmic Kitten]

110. investigate what?

It's not clear any crime has occurred

It's simply a vile letter.
In this day and age is that something
law enforcement will bother with?

I've seen thefts and violent crimes go
completely undocumented or ignored...
but an anonymous letter will get their attention?
SRSLY?

Meh, internet drama...

[leftofcool]

112. Two words Postal Inspector

Read the laws. Hope this helps.

[Cosmic Kitten]

114. Post the "laws" in question

[Number23]

118. After being on DU almost four years, we are glad that you have finally discovered the AA forum

However, we do discuss other issues such as housing discrimination, racism in sports, health etc. etc.

So if this particular topic isn't to your liking, no need to hang around. There are other posts in this forum you can post in or you can just trash our little spot altogether. Thanks.

[Cosmic Kitten]

120. I'm certainly curious about this issue.

This is the first instance where a DU member was "stalked"
that I'm aware of.

Additionally, the "stalker" is a self-identified Bernista!

This is very interesting!

Given the pejoratives saddled upon Bernie supporters
I'm interested to see how this unfolds.

[Number23]

121. How very interesting, all of these new names and faces. Never here when we talk about racism

what it means to be a minority in America, and institutionalized oppression... but all up in this.

Your participation in this thread seems to be an attempt to make an already raw situation even worse and I'd be much obliged if you just let this work out itself. Thanks.

[leftofcool]

113. As well, I would remember to which forum you are posting.

You won't get any warnings, you'll just be banned

[Cosmic Kitten]

115. #19

[sheshe2]

123. She is persuing it.

Postmaster general said it is a fine line under a punishable crime.

A woman is being stalked and this is your fucking response.

"Meh, internet drama... "

"Meh, internet drama... "

"Meh, internet drama... "

"Meh, internet drama... "

STALKING IS A CRIME.

Stalking is contact (usually two or more times) from someone that makes you feel afraid or harassed.

Sending you unwanted emails or letters

Stalking is a crime and can be dangerous. To learn more about the laws against stalking, contact the National Center for Victims of Crime helpline. Stalking can be very frightening, and can make you feel out of control, anxious, and depressed. It can affect your ability to sleep, eat, and work. If you are being stalked, get support from people who care about you.

If you think you are being stalked
Help for stalking

If you or someone you know is being stalked, call The Stalking Resource Center National Center for Victims of Crime Helpline.

Phone: 800-FYI-CALL (800-394-2255), Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. EST.
TDD: 800-211-7996
Email: [e-mail]

If you think you're being stalked, consider these steps:

File a complaint with the police. Make sure to tell them about all threats.

Cyberstalking

Cyberstalking is using the Internet, email, or other electronic communications to stalk someone. Examples of cyberstalking include:

Sending unwanted, frightening, or obscene emails, text messages, or instant messages (IMs)
Harassing or threatening someone in a chat room
Posting improper messages on a message board
Tracking your computer and Internet use

http://www.womenshealth.gov/violence-against-women/types-of-violence/stalking.html

Your 'Meh' attitude of a female member of our group is frightening. It speaks volumes.

[Cosmic Kitten]

126. Ummm, the "threat" is to be alerted on!!!11!1!11!11

Conflating actual STALKING with a threat
to "alert' on an internet post makes a
mockery and trivializes REAL stalking.

The only apparent "threat" is to alert
on a post, hardly a matter that Law enforcement
need be concerned with.

Maybe, Skinner can give certain DUers "immunity"
from alerts?
If some people can't be alerted on then the threat is pointless?

Would you agree some people should be immune from alerting...
just based on the "alert STALKERS"?

[Starry Messenger]

128. AA Forum group host--blocking poster.

Was given two warnings to take this discussion out of this group.

Posted this after that:

Ummm, the "threat" is to be alerted on!!!11!1!11!11

Conflating actual STALKING with a threat
to "alert' on an internet post makes a
mockery and trivializes REAL stalking.

The only apparent "threat" is to alert
on a post, hardly a matter that Law enforcement
need be concerned with.

Maybe, Skinner can give certain DUers "immunity"
from alerts?
If some people can't be alerted on then the threat is pointless?

Would you agree some people should be immune from alerting...
just based on the "alert STALKERS"?

[OilemFirchen]

138. All this talk about the "Cave" piqued my curiosity.

I hadn't been there in years. Still the same old shit hole.

It was interesting to find these two remarks on the first page of the first link I clicked. I obviously won't link to them, and apologize in advance for the predictably offensive language. In the context of this thread, though, it's fairly revealing:

Sorry, I just can't believe this. They want the FBI involved because she was allegedly sent a letter threatening...to alert on her.

A ploy to try to blackmail Skins into giving the 10 or so actual black DUmbasses total immunity and control of the island.

[NutmegYankee]

140. I'm surprised you had that much patience.

Good grief.

[Starry Messenger]

141. It's usually a quiet group, and the culture of the forum has been to try to cut people slack.

[MineralMan]

145. I think you're posting in the wrong thread in the wrong

place on DU, frankly. Minimizing this situation is not welcome. Perhaps saying nothing at all is the best plan, really.

[dumbcat]

148. Yes, they should sit down and stfu

they don't belong here.

[LanternWaste]

144. No, that's merely creative fiction by authors for young adult books...

"but that's just CT, right?"

No, that's merely creative fiction by authors for young adult books... as you yourself pointed out.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

73. Here is Bravenak's PM to me

bravenak
How bout I got the same letter again today?
Mail Message
Somebody thinks they are funny.

Take a look but if you post the envelope, black out my info. They addressed it wrong.

REDACTED


Same letter though. They must have sent this out first and realized they addressed it wrong. I feel like encyclopedia brown.

[OilemFirchen]

81. I'm a little confused by that.

They both were postmarked on the same day. Can't wrap my head around this person's thought processes, other than "boiling mad".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

84. I give up. I am a salesperson and not a internet sleuth.

eom

[kwassa]

82. What are you suggesting?

Spell it out.

[OilemFirchen]

91. If you're referring to the "reality" of the letter,

its very existence was questioned by an interlocutor today.

To wit: "... the image of the printed letter 1SBM posted, that Bravenak allegedly received..."

I'm simply attempting to coax the naysayers to try the high dive.

[kwassa]

95. Thank you for clarifying.

I thought you were one doing that questioning.

[OilemFirchen]

98. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

It's my fault - the nature of my conversation.

Believe it or not, I speak like I write. I have the bruises to prove it...

[Cosmic Kitten]

111. oh, I see now

[HooptieWagon]

78. That's not a Tampa area code I'm aware of.

All our area codes are 33xxx

[NutmegYankee]

86. I must have it backwards then.

It must be for zip codes that start with 335, not end.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/us-postal-service-will-retain-st-petersburgs-postmark-officials-say/1217737

[ornotna]

88. Looks like there are a dozen or so zip codes that start with 335xx

http://www.zipmap.net/Florida/Hillsborough_County/Tampa.htm

But none from St. Pete.

[HooptieWagon]

94. 335xx used to be further south.

Not sure now. But they would have gone through Tampa Post Office as a hub.
City of Tampa is mostly 336xx, St Pete is mostly 337xx. But the PO at Tampa Airport would be a departure point for mail heading to west coast by air from Fla central west coast.

[HooptieWagon]

99. Adding...

The 335xx codes are eastern Hillsborough County. Solidly republican suburbs and housing developments. Not many Democrats there, and I'd venture to say no Bernie supporters.

[ornotna]

100. Yes, that area is very red

And very neck too.

[HooptieWagon]

105. Some of its neck.

Some of its fundy, some of its just upscale suburbs. Doubtful there's much Bernie support there, if indeed the source of the letters. I rather doubt there's even any DUers there.

[Starry Messenger]

53. Excuse me?

Group host here--if you are not in here to be supportive of one of the regulars of the AA forum, as bravenak is, please consider this your first and last warning.

For further questions, refer to the SOP of the group pinned at the top of the forum.

[Cha]

67. The asshole who wrote the letter is a fucking stalker.. that's what we do know as he yells

"GO BERNIE!!!". Via the fucking Fed US Mail System.

[Cosmic Kitten]

69. You seem very angry?

What did you intend by:
that's what do know as he yells

It's kinda unintelligible? auto correct?

[Cha]

72. Of course I'm pissed that some stupid asshole would send a stalking message through the US mail

system.

As the Host told you .. we're here to support Bravenak.

[Gloria]

44. I just got hidden by a vote of 4 to 3 for a discussion evaluating HRC/Sanders

foreign policy and saying it might get hidden. It was in the HRC Group.
So now I can't even post in the HRC group without being able to even reply in the same thread? Oh, and the Bernie Group was upset, so I can't post in the group I was finally pushed to join by the Bernie crowd...???

Not only has DU attracted dangerous "supporters" as Bravenak is experiencing, but a HRC group poster gets barred from posting by people who are not really interested in the group.
DU has become utterly out of whack... It's like an ongoing purge. A place where a Dem had no country....nice.
I don't recall the hostility level being this high in 08.

[Person 2713]

61. Almost Mao cult like and I am not a Hilary voter - so people don't go there

[Cha]

89. I'm so sorry to hear that, Gloria.. the "85% BS supporters" jury pool will do that that to you.

[Texasgal]

46. I don't understand.

She received another letter? Did it say the same shit as the first one?

This is very fucked up!

[HooptieWagon]

80. Have the contents of the second letter been posted?

Something's fishy here...same postmark date.

[retrowire]

47. This is getting ridiculous...

The letters do have the stupidest most mundane threats though. The writer is likely a childish idiot.

[Gloria]

50. The entire campaign to troll and

get posts hidden is idiotic as well....

Cesspool

[George II]

51. Phony bastard has "Anchorage AK" as the return address, but it was postmarked in Florida????

[LiberalArkie]

62. The return address was clipped off the envelope. I guess the asshole put her address in both places

or just in the return with Anchorage, Alaska as the to address.

Bravenak used the login in way too many places, it took me about 2 minutes to get her address and phone number.

[DRoseDARs]

70. See, no, the thing you're doing right here? Stop.

This is precisely the wrong thing to do. This is a police matter, let them handle investigation before you start dragging potentially innocent and uninvolved people in.

[Person 2713]

71. Ok I deleted point taken

[DRoseDARs]

74. Thank you.

That sort of thing is inappropriate as it can easily hurt innocent people. The example I use is in the early days after the Boston Marathon Bombing, several people were identified... who had absolutely nothing to do with the bombing... and their lives were endangered.

Internet sleuthing is a dangerous game.

[LiberalArkie]

59. It only took a couple of clicks to get to her street address, gmail and phone number.

She has to change her username and some other stuff.

[LittleBlue]

64. Jesus, you're right

Her info is right out there, even a picture of her.

Bravenak, if you're reading this, disassociate your personal accounts from the word "bravenak". Absolutely anyone can find you.

[stevenleser]

76. I really hope the person who did this gets to spend a year in federal prison

it would be what they richly deserve.

[steve2470]

109. +1000000 nt

[Cosmic Kitten]

127. A year in prison for Alert Stalking!

Nice

[steve2470]

129. you can't be serious ?

He's referring to stalking via US Postal Mail.

[geek tragedy]

133. You should excuse yourself from this conversation nt

[stonecutter357]

143. you seem concerned.

[zappaman]

146. Couldn't resist coming into a safe haven to fling your feces, eh?

Unreal.

[Kurska]

150. "A year in prison for Stalking and using a federal service to send threats!"

Fixed that for you.

[raven mad]

149. He (IT) ain't no DU'er.

and bravenak can handle it.

She's a quite amazing person.

[blackspade]

151. Rage.