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JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 02:55 PM Oct 2015

John Lewis has endorsed Hillary Clinton

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251654332


My comments on Mr. Lewis Here -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118726618

One more time though -

John Lewis didn't just 'march' or write books and lecture:





And he -


And he also -


Now he says stuff like this -


And wow - he wants us to get on up and get in trouble!


And because of this -


And yeah - this -



As I wrote on September 14th -
I've got a feeling about who Lewis will be endorsing . . .

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John Lewis has endorsed Hillary Clinton (Original Post) JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 OP
As will the rest of the CBC. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #1
Ahhh Tarheel you have yet to learn JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #2
They've all been bought off by the Clinton/DNC/DLC/CBC/BLM/Third Way Bilderberger cabal. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #15
You forgot the evil George Soros! emulatorloo Oct 2015 #17
Don't forget JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #23
!!! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #31
You forgot the corporatists!! redstateblues Oct 2015 #55
I to have a taste for snark. iandhr Oct 2015 #21
My congressman (Danny Davis of Illinois) already has. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2015 #3
I'm almost certain that Alma Adams will as well. I can't find anything on her official site. nt Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #19
He endorsed her in 2007 as well. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #4
Do you really think a District that is nearly 60% African-American ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #7
I think there's a lot of time between now and then Scootaloo Oct 2015 #8
Unfortunately for you & BS, not enough time. BS is no Barack Obama. Clinton would have won AA Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #16
You make it sound like an episode of Scooby Doo. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #18
Bookmark this page. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #20
Can you put this in your online calendar? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #25
Will do! I cannot fathom, in a zillion years, how these delusional people think that BS will..... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #32
Tell the guy I responded to down thread JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #34
Don't forget - that's the Hot Lanta area 1strong JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #10
Soooo True ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #14
That corporate overlord talk JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #24
Don't think that's going to happen this time JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #9
Maybe not. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #12
I don't think she will JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #13
K & R Iliyah Oct 2015 #5
K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #6
K&R. lunamagica Oct 2015 #11
K and R leftofcool Oct 2015 #22
K&R Lisa D Oct 2015 #26
+1 DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #53
LOVE this man! zappaman Oct 2015 #27
K&R brer cat Oct 2015 #28
K & R Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #29
Funny thing. While scanning the photos and comments above I got the impression that . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #30
I don't think it parallels at all JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #33
My grandad was a Morehouse grad too!!!!! Number23 Oct 2015 #37
What years did they graduate? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #40
Naw girl, I think my grandad was more like the early 50s Number23 Oct 2015 #41
He might have been there with my Uncle Otis JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #42
33 grandchildren??! Goodness gracious! The JAG family has been QUITE busy! Number23 Oct 2015 #48
My dad was at the the tail end of ten JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #57
Now ... You two are just bragging ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #58
So John Lewis owes BS an endorsement for marching 50 years ago? Did you read his reasons... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #35
Sometimes it just seems like these folks have GOT to be pulling our legs, don't it? Number23 Oct 2015 #36
Do you feel obligated to support BS cuz of some shit he did before you were even born? I don't. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #39
This is one of the most ignorant-ass postings Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #43
You are welcome in my home at any time JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #46
I Came Out of Lurkdom lib87 Oct 2015 #45
I know - right? n/t JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #47
Really??? His CAREER?????? Digital Puppy Nov 2015 #61
He's a national treasure. Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #38
Really Wonderful, OP, Gen.. Thank you for the John Lewis Endorsement of Hillary! Cha Oct 2015 #44
The dust up in GDP over this was at parts predictable and incredibly hilarious Number23 Oct 2015 #49
The conversation over here Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #50
An excellent diary which lead me to a Kos post about Sanders supporters shitting all over John Lewis Number23 Oct 2015 #52
Tragic. lovemydog Nov 2015 #59
K & R revmclaren Oct 2015 #51
Wonder how Bernie will do in SC? redstateblues Oct 2015 #54
I think they will go for Clinton in the Primary JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #60
Yes, he has!!!! MADem Oct 2015 #56

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
2. Ahhh Tarheel you have yet to learn
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:00 PM
Oct 2015

See - the entire CBC is all third way plutocratic oligarch corporate overlords so it's to be expected!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
15. They've all been bought off by the Clinton/DNC/DLC/CBC/BLM/Third Way Bilderberger cabal.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 04:10 PM
Oct 2015

Oh, and I feel like I should toss in Skull & Bones just to make sure all bases are covered.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. He endorsed her in 2007 as well.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:05 PM
Oct 2015

And then swapped to candidate obama after voters in his district went overwhelmingly for Obama over Clinton:

Mr. Lewis, a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention, first disclosed his intention to support Mr. Obama in an interview with The New York Times on Feb. 14. He said then that he could “never, ever do anything to reverse the action” of the voters of his district, who overwhelmingly supported Mr. Obama, of Illinois.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28lewis.html
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. Do you really think a District that is nearly 60% African-American ...
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:22 PM
Oct 2015

is going to go to Bernie? ... especially when he is polling in the teens among that population?

Candidate Obama was consistently polling in the 30s among African-Americans and was consistently within 15 points of HRC in 2007.

Completely different scenario.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
16. Unfortunately for you & BS, not enough time. BS is no Barack Obama. Clinton would have won AA
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 04:13 PM
Oct 2015

support, just as she won Latino/a support last time, had it not been for a "NEWCOMER" named Barack Hussein Obama. BS is no "NEWCOMER".

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
18. You make it sound like an episode of Scooby Doo.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 04:19 PM
Oct 2015

"And she would have gotten that district too, if it hadn't been for those meddling voters!"

Maybe you're right. But also, maybe you're not. We've got until super Tuesday to find out, don't we?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
32. Will do! I cannot fathom, in a zillion years, how these delusional people think that BS will.....
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:09 PM
Oct 2015

somehow magically inherit Barack Obama's most loyal constituency. It is to laugh. Someone should tell them to stop looking for similarities between BS & Barack Obama's campaign. It is much more akin to Howard Dean's 2004 campaign. A lot of excited and very passionate white liberals, but little to nobody else. That is not a winning formula for any "Democrat"..

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
34. Tell the guy I responded to down thread
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:23 PM
Oct 2015

Lewis is a solid long time Democratic - he's always flown that flag.

Can we stop for a second and acknowledge it wasn't just a March in the deep South and an arrest -

It was physical brutality and he's lucky to be alive. This is an extremely brave man - but he had to be.

No one was going to help us - until thar physical violence, bombings, burnings, lynchings were meted out as a result of black folks standing up for themselves.

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
10. Don't forget - that's the Hot Lanta area 1strong
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:31 PM
Oct 2015

Well educated, affluent.

They tend to be quite a bit more conservative than the North Eastern/Mid Atlantic folks.

It includes 3/4 of Atlanta.

I posted this knowing folks were going to be upset or hopeful - but they have to face reality now.

Those folks aren't going for Sanders. They are not. So just forget it. And John Lewis won't be supporting him either. IF Sanders were to prevail - he would do it out of duty to his party in the G.E. -

But he's not switching on this one.

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
24. That corporate overlord talk
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 05:10 PM
Oct 2015

Sanders is going to have to have his gotv'ers tamp down.

I'm trying to imagine them knocking on John's door, Morehouse Grad, Harvard MBA and Law - and now Seminary graduate Minister -


Oooooh boy - they are going to have to shift gears big time.

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
9. Don't think that's going to happen this time
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:28 PM
Oct 2015

Just like I don't think O'Malley or Sanders have a snowball's chance in hell of grabbing the primary in South Carolina.

From 2010 - but it's really only getting better for blacks in that district. If god forbid something happened to my husband - I would sell my house and move ot Hot Lanta. Not only do I have a bunch of friends from high school down there (many stayed after attending Spelman and Morehouse) but I also have quite a few cousins in that district. And my dad's older brother - my uncle Otis who I'm sure had a disco with Lewis at Church on this!

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/house/georgia/5


District Demographics

Race and ethnicity

District
White 37.6%
Black 50.2%
Hispanic 8.1%
Asian 2.6%
Native American 0.7%

Median income $50,072
Poverty rate 15.2%
Below $25,000 25.4%
$25,000-$50,000 23.4%
$50,000-$100,000 25.1%
$100,000-$200,000 15.7%
$200,000 or more 9.2%

Education

District


U.S.

High school graduate 84.6% (higher than US in 2010 which was 84.5%)
Bachelor's degree or higher 42.9% (higher than us in 2010 which was 27.4%)


Age
District
U.S. Under 18 21.7%
65 and older 9.0%



*************************************

I think we O'Malley supporters and Bernie supporters have to accept defeat on this one.

It is what it is - but I predicted this on September 14th. That area of Georgia - my well educated peers are going to go Clinton. They are more conservative than those of us in the Mid Atlantic States.

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
13. I don't think she will
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 03:38 PM
Oct 2015

That's a very democratic district - and it fits with her vision. She'll be there.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
30. Funny thing. While scanning the photos and comments above I got the impression that . . .
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 05:55 PM
Oct 2015

. . . his career strongly parallels that of Bernie Sanders.

Gee, does anyone recall Hillary doing racial activism work 40-50 years ago?

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
33. I don't think it parallels at all
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:19 PM
Oct 2015

Sanders has focused primarily on economic justice - Lewis always has his eyes on Civil Rights and making sure all Americans - can be assured they have the most basic rights.

Let's face it - his district has prosperous blacks moving to it from all over the country (see my posts up thread) for a reason.

It's not just two HBCUs - it really does have a "feel" to it.

They have both achieved what they have - because of their very different focus points. But they are indeed different.

He (Lewis) could have fled as so many did - he chose to stand and fight - just as my grandfather did in the 1920's (a Morehouse grad) when so many from his graduating class moved to Harlem, Boston, and California.

Now the children and grandchildren at the tail end of the Great Migration - move down South for economic opportunity. It has to be the "right" place - and his district is the right place.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
37. My grandad was a Morehouse grad too!!!!!
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:57 PM
Oct 2015

Oh my God! Once again I feel like we are the same person or at the very least, spiritual 1st cousins!!



And my granny went across the road to Spellman.

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
40. What years did they graduate?
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 07:36 PM
Oct 2015

Mary and Richard were * I think* 1919 and 1921.

My granddaddy got himself an older woman!

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
42. He might have been there with my Uncle Otis
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:12 PM
Oct 2015

Keep in mind - I'm the youngest of 33 grandchildren. My moms grandparents were my dad's parents contemporaries! My dad was a rebel - Tuskeegee man!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
48. 33 grandchildren??! Goodness gracious! The JAG family has been QUITE busy!
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:24 PM
Oct 2015


We have a couple of Tuskeegee alums in my family too! And my granny's sister went to Mo Brown. HBCU's are well represented in my family but having gone to an all black pre-school, elementary school, middle school and high school, I wanted to see what else was out there when I went to college.

When I started my undergrad, for the first time in my ENTIRE life, I understood what it meant to be a minority. Up until that point I kept "hearing" that black folks were a minority but that's all I ever saw everywhere I looked. That was some scary shit.

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
57. My dad was at the the tail end of ten
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 04:51 AM
Oct 2015


His older siblings would say - he and the twins (born when his mom was in her early 40's - total oops babies!) had different parents than those who were born when my grandparents were in their 20's and 30's.

Being the baby of the 33? Going down there for weeks at a time when I was a little kid without my parents? I had totally different grands than my cousins in their 60s!

Example - figuring out that I could pop popcorn by throwing it at the cow fence and eating it like a baby seal. My granddaddy doesn't warn me or my comrades in doing the wrong thing about the dangers involved - just says "I don't grow a lot of that corn so don't eat it all." Zero Adult Guidance.

Good times. Good times.

Charmed life. One set of grands had a home with a boat on Lake Tahoe and one in La Jolla. They were the young 'uns who played with us.

The other set had goats and dogs and chickens and tractors and a bull (that was not fun - ouch) and by the time I came along - were completely immune to the antics of little people "goin for bad".

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
35. So John Lewis owes BS an endorsement for marching 50 years ago? Did you read his reasons...
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:39 PM
Oct 2015

for his endorsement of Sec Clinton? I've got news for you...the most liberal CBC member and lone opponent of the IWR, Barbara Lee, has also endorsed Hillary. There's a reason for it, but you won't figure it out until the primaries are already over.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
36. Sometimes it just seems like these folks have GOT to be pulling our legs, don't it?
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:56 PM
Oct 2015

That they could not POSSIBLY be for real.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
39. Do you feel obligated to support BS cuz of some shit he did before you were even born? I don't.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 07:14 PM
Oct 2015

And you're so right, no other icon is more appropriate. They need to stop that shit. It's no longer a palatable argument, just ask Black Twitter.

lib87

(535 posts)
45. I Came Out of Lurkdom
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:10 AM
Oct 2015

To laugh at this.

Bernie Sanders is his own man with his own accomplishments which is fine. This need to constantly try to compare and tie him to great Black civil rights activists (especially in a Black forum space) will always end poorly. Always.

Digital Puppy

(496 posts)
61. Really??? His CAREER??????
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:18 PM
Nov 2015

Not sure what to say to that line of reasoning...I guess I was blind and now I see!! This changes everything!! Thank the Lawd someone has taken the veil from ma blind eyes!!! Thanks soooo much for 'splaining' that to me!!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
49. The dust up in GDP over this was at parts predictable and incredibly hilarious
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:28 PM
Oct 2015

I was totally expecting the "Hillary twisted his arm" crap from some and it was there. What I was not expecting was for someone to be so incensed over this endorsement that they would actually CALL HIS OFFICE to "confirm" that's what happened. That was absolutely surreal.

But for the most part, the conversations were mostly respectful. I guess after the BLM fiasco, a few here have realized that they truly cannot afford to alienate black folks even further.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
50. The conversation over here
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:51 PM
Oct 2015

has been really tame, lol

Over at DK, though...well, it's a hot mess...836 comments in Miss Dee's diary and at least two response diaries...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
52. An excellent diary which lead me to a Kos post about Sanders supporters shitting all over John Lewis
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:28 PM
Oct 2015

Facebook page after he endorsed Hillary. Edit: Corrected the Link! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/08/1429419/-John-Lewis-Endorses-Hillary-Clinton-and-No-One-Should-Second-Guess-Him

I am so goddamned sick of these fucking people.

A sample of the comments:

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1429419/57862918#c57

A few favorites:

You're bought and paid for bufoon, she accomplished nothing as Secretary of State except for bringing money into the Clinton Foudation, vote for Sanders or Joe


Sell out much ? Bernie is better by a long shot. Not even close.


Shame on you, not joining your brother-in-arms in civil rights, Bernie Sanders. You tarnish your reputation with taint that is Hillary D. R. Clinton.


Unreal.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
59. Tragic.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:47 PM
Nov 2015

Many white people who self-describe as 'progressive' have an ignorance problem and a racism problem. Perhaps the racism is borne of ignorance. It's still ignorant racism, imho.

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
60. I think they will go for Clinton in the Primary
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 06:18 AM
Nov 2015

Second will be O'Malley if he gets traction in IA or NH. I think there is room for upset in the party. That's not to offend Clinton OR Sanders supporters.

Reality is - the real under dog in this Campaign is O'Malley. None of the three has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the low information white male voter in square and Southern states with a chip on his shoulder about "them ones" taking something from him.

In the GE the state goes to the Republicans as a default.

In 2014 (articles on the web) the SC voter turn out was the lowest in decades and that's probably why Governor Phoney Baloney won again. iF we have a strong Democratic voter turn out and IF we gain swing votes we might get it. But I doubt it . . . Regardless of who the nominee is - they stay Red.

Better to focus on PA (there were voting rights shenanigans there in 2012) than SC in the GE.

Oh - and Trump looks good to them now but he will be a gift to our party in a GE. It's well known in NYC he pays around on his wife. He has them paid off now but will they stay quiet? And the pictures of his current wife floating around aren't going to play well when they pop back up in a GE.

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