Jordan Davis Murder Trial thread
Post in LBN yesterday by another DUer for highest level information - http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=717136 I.E. – Trial Underway
Jury Selection is now underways -
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/02/03/jury-selection-underway-michael-dunn-trial
Dunn is accused of shooting and killing Davis after an argument over loud music in a gas station parking lot in Jacksonville, Florida. Dunn claims the teen was threatening him, and he shot Davis in self-defense. Police never found a weapon on Davis or in the SUV he was in.
Before opening statements begin next week, HLN is taking a look back at everything that has led up to this moment, including stepping into Dunn's world behind bars. Twenty-five of his jailhouse letters have been released to the public, according to Jacksonville's WTEV.
While claiming in a letter to his grandmother that he's not a racist, Dunn repeatedly refers to Davis and his friends as thugs, and in a letter to his daughter he talks about how "the jail is full of blacks and they All act like thugs."
Quotes from his letters to his grandmother at Huffpo –
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/18/jordan-davis-shooter-michael-dunn_n_4123805.html
Excerpts from Letter(s) to Grandma
The jail is full of blacks and they all act like thugs. This may sound a bit radical but if more people would arm themselves and kill these (expletive) idiots, when they're threatening you, eventually they may take the hint and change their behavior.
I'm really not prejudiced against race, but I have no use for certain cultures. This gangster-rap, ghetto talking thug 'culture' that certain segments of society flock to is intolerable. They espouse violence and disrespect towards women. The black community here in Jacksonville is in an uproar against me -- the three other thugs that were in the car are telling stories to cover up their true "colors."
I am amazed at what is going on with the way the media has been covering this case. Their [sic] have been several other shootings here in Jacksonville, yet they are all either black-on-black or black-on-white, and none of them have garnered any attention from the media. I guess it's news when someone dares to not to be a victim, but they are twisting it around sand saying I was the "bad guy."
That last quote - 'When someone dares to not be a victim' - I guess we'll have to wait and see until the evidence is released but as I understand it -
There were three other men in the car.
Not one of them had a gun.
There were other witnesses at the gas station.
He was not threatened - just a drunk.
They (he and his female partner) ran from the scene of the crime. Even the Zimpig stuck around. That's right - even the Zimpig stuck around.
Thought I would start this for anyone wishing to discuss but maybe bruised a little around the psyche from the Trayvon Martin Murder Trial.
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Last week on one of the Knox threads . . .
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=714973
I don't think you are too far off in your line of thinking. 
At the time of the murder -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/117288809
*sigh*
Glad you found this corner of DU - welcome! It's not just for AA's here - but for all who can see these things for what they are.
These issues hit very close to home, I grew up in South Florida & am raising 2 teenage sons in SC. I dealt with some scary shit as a teenager/young adult & hate that I'm having to raise my boys with these same fears.
Our children should not have to be in fear of their lives simply because of the color of their skin.
To shoot that gun. 
Thank you for updating the thread BT.
My understanding is Strolla (defense atty) put out there in opening arguments that this poor kid had a four inch knife.
Trying to connect the dots - but the ME today said there was no way Jordan was standing up when he is shot.
Having seen a jury from this area in action this summer - I'm going to cross my fingers that they disregard that outright lie from Fibber McGee there.
She tried to "connect" during jury selection by laughing about driving into work blasting *I think* Def Leppard.
Defense has two witnesses and should rest their case tomorrow.
If the defense tells that lie about a knife and the prosecution allows it to slide - this guy walks. And Corey being Corey - she will allow them to get away with it.
I hate to say it - I will be shocked if he doesn't walk.
That jury is going to fall for his crocodile tears and geek persona. 
All I can say is, I fear you're right about that.
We all know he murdered Jordan in cold blood - its clear as day. But unfortunately - this case isn't taking place in the Hunterdon County NJ court house. 
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Let's see, says that this kid said something to him, cursed or had a knife. Excuse the fuck outta me, but Dunn was outside the car. Dunn has a gun with him. His vehicle is fueled up and ready to go. It works, no one is stopping him.
Just where is the balance of power? Were the magic words and the magic knife gonna kill him if he backed away from the kid and the other vehicle, and him having a gun? And he can't go to his vehicle and leave for help?
Just fucking lies and bullshit. And from what I'm reading here of how the court room is beting handled, this bastard is gonna walk! WTF is wrong with these people?
Don't they know the whole nation knows what they are doing? That this is wrong? Are they that fucking arrogant, and dare I say - racist - to think they are going to get away with this?
This is worse than Z, and I was sure he was going to jail. The woman he had molested as toddler thought so too!
This is open and shut, you don't go to a vehicle, start a mess, and not expect to get some pushback. He could have left, for fuck's sake!
But his writings about how the blacks needed to be killed to teach them not to threaten someone is so flipping psycho I don't know how twisted a person would have to be to agree with him. Florida has got something seriously wrong going on down there.
I've never been to Florida, and frankly never wanted to visit. It appears to be some kind of benighted region that can't stop being racist.
Now there is a commissioner that cut off most of the polling places in a minority area, as he says, he wants it as hard to vote a person having to walk 200 miles in Africa!
He said that! In 2014! Damn, I don't know what to say. Just damn it all to hell.
Sorry, but I can't watch or listen to this damned thing in that courtroom. I can't have that in my brain. I'll check back here for whatever turns out to happen.
And it looks like it's going to be just let the bastard go. After all he said. All he did. Just walk away. I wish there was a way to declare martial law on that area and send out a mental health worker to every house and root out this damned racist insanity.
Okay, that's too much, I'll likely delete this later.
One, I need to link it for Number23. Two, I started this thread because after Trayvon's trial - it became crystal clear who/what was "controlling" the conversation at DU. This is a spot to say these things.
And yes it's disgusting how that court room was handled. My boss called me into his office yesterday and we shut the door and watched Dunn's testimony. My boss - an almost 60 year old white man who grew up in the NYC area kept saying, "this is utter bullshit!". But we had discussed this case after Trayvon did not get justice and he was sickened by that verdict and pointed out - if those windows had been tinted - it could have been one of his sons . . . Who blast rap music in their car. He cares because "the gunners and bigots are out of control."
If that group of jurors - who during jury selection had a few tee hees about the clean up after gun violence vs other forms of murder have bought his "key words" then he will walk. He's not even using SYG - he had to convince them that his uh - er - 'method' of handling the conflict HE STARTED was justifiable. Sick.
I'll say this though - the people of The Republic of Key West - they are worth visiting if you ever get the chance. I'm convinced we will never hear of this stupidity in their little slice of Florida.
Seriously - I might be a bit beat up physically due to an auto immune disease - but I'm tough. I can take it. Let them say that stuff! Know why?
1. They are showing their sorry asses.
2. I can move beyond a sensitive moment - but ugly and rotten to the core go to the bone and last forever.
3. If Prosense, Cha, geek_tragedy, redqueen, seabeyond and a host of other people can take their nonsense - so can I.
Remember - even President Obama dusted the dirt off his shoulders.
What I'm saying is, I hate to bring it to a safe haven like AA. I may have missed hidden posts here or who's blocked, so I don't know how it's been going here since the group was set up here on DU3.
Plenty have showed their asses in the BOG and I've offered to delete threads when members feel bombarded. We've had to post warnings and head threads with 'BOG.'
Always claimed they didn't know where they were, after they dropped their pants and took a dump - not talking the point, just abuse. I don't think that should be in GD, either.
I'll keep following that live blog link I posted and this thread. Now that the jury is sequestered, we won't know what is going to happen.
The trial was very short, IMO.
Did it seem that way to you?
. That means they can't see the video of zdunn's neighbor . . .http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/15/justice/florida-loud-music-trial/index.html
A thread with a different title in LBN now:
Fla. Man Guilty Of Lesser Counts In Music Shooting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014728974
Not in OP, but at the link:
Jurors could have decided not to convict Dunn on that charge but instead find him guilty on lesser charges such as manslaughter. Or they could have acquitted him altogether on this count.
With the hung jury, State Attorney Angela Corey said prosecutors would press for a new trial in Duval County on the murder charge...
Prosecutor Erin Wolfson explained Saturday night that each attempted second-degree murder conviction carries a minimum sentence of at least 20 years. There's also a 15-year sentence possible on the shooting conviction...
Lucia McBath said -- even without a decision on the murder count tied to Davis, her son -- her family is "so very happy to have just a little bit of closure."
See picture at time of the verdict:
Despite Corey's statement of:
"Justice for Jordan Davis is as important as it is for any victim," Corey said.
I feel she was wrong to disallow the emails. That showed malice aforethought, but I'm not sure that this is the way Florida law states such matters. And as usual, my disclaimer, 'Not an attorney.'
But not for the one he actually killed... smh.
