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It really upsets me down to my soul (Original Post) rbrnmw Jun 2016 OP
So very many unsung heroes slumcamper Jun 2016 #1
I'm standing with you on this one. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2
Lol, I got a hide for pointing out the nonsense. giftedgirl77 Jun 2016 #3
OMG really? rbrnmw Jun 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #5
Lol, pretty sure it was the same thread. giftedgirl77 Jun 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #7
agree swhisper1 Jun 2016 #26
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There is so much of that here now . Sick . I put them on ignore but lately my list really grew Person 2713 Jun 2016 #14
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That was largely a "black skin" hide imo. brer cat Jun 2016 #24
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Apparently, their voices... Bohemianwriter Jun 2016 #30
You make several really good points here, Number23. calimary Jun 2016 #32
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nope rbrnmw Jun 2016 #11
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I absolutely stand with you on this, but I honestly don't belive that LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #13
No, some doubled down when Lewis's name was brought up. pnwmom Jun 2016 #16
Yeah, I saw those, I still think it's just rabid Bernie-worship, but you may be right :( (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #17
This white woman could not agree more mcar Jun 2016 #15
I Blocked a Few Posters in That Thread lib87 Jun 2016 #19
It's so heartbreaking and horrifying ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #20
I was pissed to read it Quayblue Jun 2016 #21
Damn right rbrnmw Jun 2016 #29
Small consolation, brer cat Jun 2016 #22
K&R Gothmog Jun 2016 #23
K&R. John Lewis is a REAL hero lunamagica Jun 2016 #27
That has been a tendency among WASPs and establishment career politicians. Bohemianwriter Jun 2016 #28
Also JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #31
I must have missed a thread or something. NWCorona Jun 2016 #33
KnR sheshe2 Jun 2016 #34
Kick JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #35

slumcamper

(1,605 posts)
1. So very many unsung heroes
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jun 2016

exist in the shadows of our history as written by whites. Racial hegemony is so deeply institutionalized.

Regardless of color, liberals understand this. You're in the good company of like-minded people.

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brer cat

(24,544 posts)
24. That was largely a "black skin" hide imo.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jun 2016

Anyone looking at the voting patterns knows that PoC put her over the top, so the anger and frustration is more intense against you. Hell, you didn't even listen when they told you what was in your best interest. The irony to me is that this group by and large was very interested in and receptive to the candidates at the start of the primaries. The opportunity was there, but lost. The anger now is misplaced, but what are you going to do? They have to place the blame somewhere, just not on the candidate, so you draw the short straw.

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Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
30. Apparently, their voices...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:42 AM
Jun 2016

Apparently millions of votes from California to Brooklyn don't count.
Apperently, the Hillary camp thinks that they don't need the votes from Bernie supporters (the same campaign has used Karl Rovian tactics to smear while swiftboating the most progressive candidate in two generations).
Apparently, no good deed goes unpunished.

I wonder where this hatred towards Bernie Sanders, the most progressive candidate with a long record of standing with the African American caucus comes from.

I wonder where the hatred of his supporters (even his minority supporters) comes from. And what makes people think that their voices have no right to be heard, or their votes not counted.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
32. You make several really good points here, Number23.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jun 2016

You saw things through a very clear lens. You WERE right.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
13. I absolutely stand with you on this, but I honestly don't belive that
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

these people even thought about Congressman Lewis.

I think they're just desperate to credit Senator Sanders with some kind of accomplishment. I really think it is a coping mechanism.

That doesn't excuse it, of course.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
16. No, some doubled down when Lewis's name was brought up.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016

They still preferred to assign the credit elsewhere.

mcar

(42,287 posts)
15. This white woman could not agree more
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jun 2016

John Lewis is one of my heroes. The efforts to dismiss his actions are just...I don't have words.

lib87

(535 posts)
19. I Blocked a Few Posters in That Thread
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jun 2016

I have no patience for Black erasure and feigning ignorance when called out on it.

Quayblue

(1,045 posts)
21. I was pissed to read it
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jun 2016

We've been hollering, screaming, RIP'ing, crying and dying for years.

And as much as people be like "Oh.. Black folks are so conservative."..an old-school black man stood up and was like "Fuck this noise. Fuck these guns. American people are dying."

And I know there was some behind the scenes stuff going on. But HE represented.

And I personally think the message was Black folks protest for ALL downtrodden folks. There is no cherry-picking of issues. We could never afford it and we would never want to see anyone else do the same.

*fans self and takes a damn seat*





rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
29. Damn right
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:10 AM
Jun 2016

This Here


"Oh.. Black folks are so conservative."..an old-school black man stood up and was like "Fuck this noise. Fuck these guns. American people are dying."

And I know there was some behind the scenes stuff going on. But HE represented.


brer cat

(24,544 posts)
22. Small consolation,
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:00 PM
Jun 2016

but we all know that they can't take anything away from John Lewis. But I'm with you. I have walked away from a couple of threads because it was so bad.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
28. That has been a tendency among WASPs and establishment career politicians.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:08 AM
Jun 2016

Cowering from behind, coming to a won battle later, and taking credit for the effort despite a long history of being against what has been strived for...

I am also disheartened how kids have been used in dirty campaigns and dehumanized to please the sensitivities of an easily frightened white middle class.

Reminds me of the myth about Florence Nightingale. An African American woman did all the actual work, while Florence Nightingale took the credit.

One last point:

The Stonewall riots.

Struggles where white, middle class cis-gender men given the credit by white cis-gender feminists trying to marginalize not only African Americans, but also trans people in general.

Any other examples?

These are just a few I can come up with on top of my head relevant to the civil rights struggles in USA where white people have tried to take credit for the efforts of minorities.



NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
33. I must have missed a thread or something.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jun 2016

And with the hides being invisible now that is happening more and more.

I liked being able to see what was hidden for myself.

To your point. I agree! I learned that first hand when I learned of what "really" happened with Columbus and Lewis and Clark at a young age.

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