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TheBlackAdder

(28,168 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:13 PM Jun 2016

Revealed: Jack Daniel was taught by minister’s slave how to distill signature whiskey

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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/revealed-jack-daniel-was-taught-by-ministers-slave-how-to-distill-signature-whiskey/


The Jack Daniel’s whiskey brand is allowing tour guides at its Tennessee distillery to tell visitors that the company’s eponymous founder actually learned how to distill whiskey from a slave, the New York Times reported.

The company had previously stated that Daniel was taught by a Lutheran minister, Dan Call, when he was 15 years old. But in preparation for its 150th anniversary, company spokesperson Phil Epps said, Jack Daniel’s found that there was a case to amend that story to account for the fact that Nearis Green, a slave owned by Call, was the one who actually taught Daniel the trade.
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For its part, Jack Daniel’s company historian, Nelson Eddy, said that the company is also reconsidering the origins of the “Lincoln County” process of whiskey-making, which involves the use of charcoal chips to filter it before it is aged. Whereas the process has been attributed in the past to distiller Alfred Eaton, Eddy told the Times that it was likely based off of traditional distillation methods practiced by slaves.
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While Epps said that he did not believe it to be “a conscious decision” on the part of the company to ignore Green’s role in its history, Peter Krass, who wrote the Daniel biography Blood and Whiskey, said that its move to include Green is part of a trend toward making its history “glossier” throughout the years.



That's just awesome the truth is finally revealed!


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Revealed: Jack Daniel was taught by minister’s slave how to distill signature whiskey (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 OP
A great contribution jtx Jun 2016 #1
And thanks to TBA for sharing. jtx Jun 2016 #2
It's my pleasure. I updated the post with the article link. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #3
As such, any profits from the Jack Daniels distillery should go philosslayer Jun 2016 #4
Definitely. It's part of the whole corporate reparations map. ancianita Jun 2016 #6
How does that differ from the Government Reparations map? JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #9
Agency, I'd assume. Lawyers represent the plaintiffs across countries, ancianita Jun 2016 #10
That's my disconnect JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #11
How does that connect to a 150 year-old fact of a slave giving knowledge to Jack Daniel, then? ancianita Jun 2016 #12
Your plan will fail - that's how that connects JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #13
Bancorp in Mississippi is being punished JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #16
I don't agree with that JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #8
+1 gollygee Jun 2016 #15
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2016 #5
The Story of America nt MrScorpio Jun 2016 #7
The AA forum is pretty much the only reason I even come to DU these days and I've still missed alot Number23 Jun 2016 #14
I'm glad you keep showing up JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #17
I don't understand heaven05 Jul 2016 #18
It's like how Native Americans taught Founding Fathers ideas of a Democratic Republic. TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #19
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
4. As such, any profits from the Jack Daniels distillery should go
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jun 2016

Back to the black community. Otherwise this is just exploitation for the purposes of good PR

ancianita

(35,949 posts)
10. Agency, I'd assume. Lawyers represent the plaintiffs across countries,
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jun 2016

since governments were complicit in legalizing mass human rights violations, known at the time as business.

I just made up the phrase to describe some set of of listings of those most culpable, from individual owners to traders, to corporate 'shippers' to financiers.

I believe there are corporations still existing that were party to slaving 'businesses' at the time.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
11. That's my disconnect
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jun 2016

I want focus on my ancestors in America - 1932 until 2010.

Global doesn't help the neighbors in your backyard who were harmed by the 50 states. It also is easier for a 75 year old to explain the horrific regime that was Jim Crow (very specific to America) to their grandchildren.

Then again - I'm sick and tired of slave movies.

Selma and The Butler and Fruitvale Station good . . . 12 Years A Slave bad.

ancianita

(35,949 posts)
12. How does that connect to a 150 year-old fact of a slave giving knowledge to Jack Daniel, then?
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

Every slice of ancestral history still sits in a larger context. Just sayin'.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
13. Your plan will fail - that's how that connects
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jun 2016

We push back on the FDR was great and the 1950's were filled with awesome memes for a reason.

We for the most part were denied the ability to prosper due to Federally Mandated regulations in everything from where we were allowed to live to the penal interest rates and even what jobs were allowed to earn Social Security.

I can't believe I had to type that in this Group.

This is just known in this little corner of DU. And as an side - sundown integration and the raping of slaves could really screw up a slavery based reparation program.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
16. Bancorp in Mississippi is being punished
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:03 AM
Jun 2016

This is a perfect example of modern times impact and reparations:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141504783

*Red Lining
*Interest Rate shenanigans
*Flat out denial of approval when all things are equal on paper


https://www.yahoo.com/news/bancorpsouth-settle-u-charges-racial-discrimination-203147455--sector.html?nhp=1
The U.S. Justice Department and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau said in a court filing that the Mississippi-based bank turned down black home buyers applying for mortgages more often than similar white applicants, or charged them higher rates to borrow under a policy the government described as "explicitly discriminatory."

The bank also allegedly engaged in redlining in Memphis, a practice to deny service because of an area's racial demographics, by placing its branches outside of minority neighborhoods, the agencies said.
“BancorpSouth’s discrimination throughout the mortgage lending process harmed the people who were overcharged or denied their dream of homeownership based on their race, and it harmed the Memphis minority neighborhoods that were redlined and denied equal access to affordable credit,” CFPB Director Richard Cordray said in a statement.

Under the agreement, to be approved by the court, BancorpSouth will pay $4 million in direct loan subsidies in certain Memphis neighborhoods, $2.78 million to black consumers unlawfully denied or overcharged for loans, and $800,000 for community programs and credit repair. It will also pay a $3 million penalty.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
8. I don't agree with that
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 05:58 AM
Jun 2016

First - we only have to go back to 1932 for a framework for a basis of reparations.

Second - that could potentially hurt black descendants of American Slaves working at the company today, the liquor distributors, the liquor stores, etc etc.

The Federal Government created the framework - they own reparations.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
15. +1
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 07:57 AM
Jun 2016

Also, the United States as a whole profited from slavery, so the United States as a whole should pay reparations.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
14. The AA forum is pretty much the only reason I even come to DU these days and I've still missed alot
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jun 2016

of posts. This being one of them.

Thanks for posting. K&R

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
17. I'm glad you keep showing up
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:21 AM
Jun 2016

Sometimes I need someone to cut through the carp and tell the truth. That's you. Still watching by the way. It's only a matter of time before someone's words bite them on the ass.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. I don't understand
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jul 2016

why was the 'truth' hidden in the first place? Ohhhh, I forgot. Never mind. Too many accomplishments of black culture from the continent of Africa to the american accomplishments of POC, during slavery and post, have either been stolen or downplayed with caveats. "Black Athena', 'Destruction of Black Civilization'. Two indispensible sources of the truth of who accomplished what, when, how and why. Thank God for Black Studies!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheBlackAdder

(28,168 posts)
19. It's like how Native Americans taught Founding Fathers ideas of a Democratic Republic.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jul 2016

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They taught the Europeaners how to grow and harvest crops and survive in North America.

How were they repaid?


As their land was being slowly stolen, the King issued the Royal Proclamation of 1763 which fenced property west of the of the Appalachia as Indian land bound by Indian law, and east as being for the colonies bound by Western law.

While the main white-washed exclude for the Declaration of Independence is cited as being taxation, the real driver was pressure placed on the citizens to encroach of Indian land, and the only way they could do that was to violate the king's orders, which required independence.


You'll often hear how the Democratic Republic was a new idea, that's why. They took the principles that the Native Americans used to maintain peace and trace between the various indian nations. The colonists met with Indians and were taught this form os state government.


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