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Digital Puppy

(496 posts)
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:50 AM Jun 2016

It’s Time To Put These Myths About The Civil War To Rest

A really good read on the Huffington Post from American Civil War Writer-director Gary Ross...

From HufPo Black Voices:



A new movie is busting the many myths and misconceptions about the root causes of the American Civil War.

Writer-director Gary Ross, who directed “The Hunger Games,” conducted heavy research to set the record straight in “Free State of Jones,” released in theaters Friday. The film chronicles one white Confederate man’s fight against slavery during the Civil War, as he finds refuge and forms a rebellion to help bring slaves to freedom. Ross breaks down four harmful myths about the Civil War era, some of which the film highlights, in the above video interview with HuffPost Rise. And he expertly slams down any arguments from those who claim that slavery played no role in the rise of the Civil War.

“Yes, this is a myth,” Ross told Rise as he talked about Abraham Lincoln’s fight to preserve the union. “The Civil War was absolutely about slavery.”

Ross goes on to mention three other damaging misconceptions of the era in the Rise interview. He addresses the birth of The Black Codes laws and how they severely restricted the freedom of African-American families. He also highlighted the rise of white supremacists and the role their terrorism played in the dissolution of the Reconstruction era.

“Reconstruction didn’t fail, it was killed,” Ross said. “It ended for many reasons, but probably the most prominent one was a counter revolution of the part of white supremacists that struck back at the freedman.”


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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
2. The Civil War was absolutely about slavery; we need only read the words
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:04 AM
Jun 2016

of the Confederates themselves:

Georgia Declaration of Secession
"The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery."

Mississippi Declaration of Secession
"In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."

South Carolina Declaration of Secession
"For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. The State of New Jersey, at an early day, passed a law in conformity with her constitutional obligation; but the current of anti-slavery feeling has led her more recently to enact laws which render inoperative the remedies provided by her own law and by the laws of Congress. In the State of New York even the right of transit for a slave has been denied by her tribunals; and the States of Ohio and Iowa have refused to surrender to justice fugitives charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation."

Texas Declaration of Secession
"In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States."

Alabama Secession Speech:
"I wish, Mr. President, to express the feelings with which I vote for the secession of Alabama from the Government of the United States; and to state, in a few words, the reasons that impel me to this act.

I feel impelled, Mr. President, to vote for this Ordinance by an overruling necessity. Years ago I was convinced that the Southern States would be compelled either to separate from the North, by dissolving the Federal Government, or they would be compelled to abolish the institution of African Slavery. This, in my judgment, was the only alternative; and I foresaw that the South would be compelled, at some day, to make her selection. The day is now come, and Alabama must make her selection, either to secede from the Union, and assume the position of a sovereign, independent State, or she must submit to a system of policy on the part of the Federal Government that, in a short time, will compel her to abolish African Slavery.

Mr. President, if pecuniary loss alone were involved in the abolition of slavery, I should hesitate long before I would give the vote I now intend to give. If the destruction of slavery entailed on us poverty alone, I could bear it, for I have seen poverty and felt its sting. But poverty, Mr. President, would be one of the least of the evils that would befall us from the abolition of African slavery. There are now in the slaveholding States over four millions of slaves; dissolve the relation of master and slave, and what, I ask, would become of that race? To remove them from amongst us is impossible. History gives us no account of the exodus of such a number of persons. We neither have a place to which to remove them, nor the means of such removal. They therefore must remain with us; and if the relation of master and slave be dissolved, and our slaves turned loose amongst us without restraint, they would either be destroyed by our own hands-- the hands to which they look, and look with confidence, for protection-- or we ourselves would become demoralized and degraded. The former result would take place, and we ourselves would become the executioners of our own slaves. To this extent would the policy of our Northern enemies drive us; and thus would we not only be reduced to poverty, but what is still worse, we should be driven to crime, to the commission of sin; and we must, therefore, this day elect between the Government formed by our fathers (the whole spirit of which has been perverted), and POVERTY AND CRIME! This being the alternative, I cannot hesitate for a moment what my duty is. I must separate from the Government of my fathers, the one under which I have lived, and under which I wished to die. But I must do my duty to my country and my fellow beings; and humanity, in my judgment, demands that Alabama should separate herself from the Government of the United States.

If I am wrong in this responsible act, I hope my God may forgive me; for I am not actuated, as I think, from any motive save that of justice and philanthropy!"

George Williamson of Louisiana to the Texas Secession Convention
"Louisiana looks to the formation of a Southern confederacy to preserve the blessings of African slavery, and of the free institutions of the founders of the Federal Union, bequeathed to their posterity. As her neighbor and sister State, she desires the hearty co-operation of Texas in the formation of a Southern Confederacy. She congratulates herself on the recent disposition evinced by your body to meet this wish, by the election of delegates to the Montgomery convention. Louisiana and Texas have the same language, laws and institutions. Between the citizens of each exists the most cordial social and commercial intercourse. The Red river and the Sabine form common highways for the transportation of their produce to the markets of the world. Texas affords to the commerce of Louisiana a large portion of her products, and in exchange the banks of New Orleans furnish Texas with her only paper circulating medium. Louisiana supplies to Texas a market for her surplus wheat, grain and stock; both States have large areas of fertile, uncultivated lands, peculiarly adapted to slave labor; and they are both so deeply interested in African slavery that it may be said to be absolutely necessary to their existence, and is the keystone to the arch of their prosperity. Each of the States has an extended Gulf coast, and must look with equal solicitude to its protection now, and the acquisition of the entire control of the Gulf of Mexico in due time. No two States of this confederacy are so identified in interest, and whose destinies are so closely interwoven with each other. Nature, sympathy and unity of interest make them almost one. Recognizing these facts, but still confident in her own powers to maintain a separate existence, Louisiana regards with great concern the vote of the people of Texas on the ratification of the ordinance of secession, adopted by your honorable body on the 1st of the present month. She is confident a people who so nobly and gallantly achieved their liberties under such unparalleled difficulties will not falter in maintaining them now. The Mexican yoke could not have been more galling to "the army of heroes" of '36 than the Black republican rule would be to the survivors and sons of that army at the present day."

Call for a Referendum on a Tennessee Secession Convention:
"This provision of the Constitution has been spurned and trampled under foot by these "higher law " nullifiers. It is utterly powerless for good, since all attempts to enforce the fugitive slave law under it are made a felony in some of these States, a high misdemeanor in others, and punishable in all by heavy fines and imprisonment. The distempered public opinion of these localities having risen above the Constitution and all other law, planting itself upon the anarchical doctrines of the " higher law," with impunity defies the Government, tramples upon our rights, and plunders the Southern citizen.

It has, through the Governor of Ohio, as openly nullified that part of the Constitution which provides that-"A person charged in any State with treason, felony, or other crime, who shall flee from justice and be found in another State, shall, on demand of the executive authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having jurisdiction of the crime."

In discharge of official duty, I had occasion, within the past year, to demand of the Governor of Ohio " a person charged in the State (of Tennessee) with the crime " of slave stealing, who had fled from justice, and was found in the State of Ohio.' The Governor refused to issue his warrant for the arrest and delivery of the fugitive, and in answer to a letter of inquiry which I addressed to him, said: 'The crime of negro stealing not being known to either the common law or the criminal code of Ohio, it is not of that class of crimes contemplated by the Federal Constitution, for the commission of which I am authorized, as the executive of Ohio, to surrender a fugitive from the justice of a sister State, and hence I declined to issue a warrant," &c.; thus deliberately nullifying and setting at defiance the clause of the Constitution above quoted, as well as the act of Congress of February 12th, 1793, and grossly violating the ordinary comity existing between separate and independent nations, much less the comity which should exist between sister States of the same great Confederacy; the correspondence connected with which is herewith transmitted.

It has, through the executive authority of other States, denied extradition of murderers and marauders.

It obtained its own compromise in the Constitution to continue the importation of slaves, and now sets up a law, higher than the Constitution, to destroy this property imported and sold to us by their fathers.

It has caused the murder of owners in pursuit of their fugitive slaves, and shielded the murderers from punishment.

It has, upon many occasions, sent its emissaries into the Southern States to corrupt our slaves; induce them to run off, or excite them to insurrection.

It has run off slave property by means of the "underground railroad," amounting in value to millions of dollars, and thus made the tenure by which slaves are held in the border States so precarious as to materially impair their value.

It has, by its John Brown and Montgomery raids, invaded sovereign States and murdered peaceable citizens.

It has justified and "exalted to the highest honors of admiration, the horrid murders, arsons, and rapine of the John Brown raid, and has canonized the felons as saints and martyrs."

It has burned the towns, poisoned the cattle, and conspired with the slaves to depopulate Northern Texas.

It has, through certain leaders, proclaimed to the slaves the terrible motto, "Alarm to the sleep, fire to the dwellings, poison to the food and water of slaveholders."

It has repudiated and denounced the decision of the Supreme Court.

It has assailed our rights as guarantied by the plainest provisions of the Constitution, from the floor of each house of Congress, the pulpit, the hustings, the school-room, their State Legislatures, and through the public press, dividing and disrupting churches, political parties, and civil governments.

It has, in the person of the President elect, asserted the equality of the black with the white race."

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Have never understood how anyone can read those and come away thinking slavery was not cause.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 05:39 AM
Jun 2016

Mississippi's is about as direct as it gets -- "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery . . . . . ." (and it gets uglier from there) -- yet white wingers just can't agree.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
10. Great reference post. Thank you.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jun 2016

These various articles of secession are the best weapon against the ahistorical arguments of the Neo-Confederates. I've read some of these, but not all.

Mrdie

(115 posts)
4. Two books on blacks in US history (including Civil War and Reconstruction)
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 02:46 AM
Jun 2016
The Negro People in American History (from 1954) and Blacks in United States History (from 1985)

There's another good book about the specific subject of Reconstruction (which defends the thesis that it was overthrown by a counter-revolution) appropriately titled Reconstruction: The Battle for Democracy by James S. Allen all the way back in 1937, but it isn't online.

underpants

(182,763 posts)
7. Listened to it on tape. Great book. I read serious backlash from "historians" about Jones
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:59 AM
Jun 2016

Most of the opposition to the story came from the southern excuse industry. There is an established and voluminous business of still writing, or trying to, their way around history.

brer cat

(24,557 posts)
8. "southern excuse industry"
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 07:52 AM
Jun 2016

That is good, underpants. I am a southerner, and I have zero tolerance for the "proud of mah heritage" folks. A big source of my education about the pre-emancipation period & Civil War, and something I enjoy very much, is reading compilations of letters and diaries from people during that era. These contemporaneous accounts of southern life make it abundantly clear that slavery was the issue.period. Denial runs deep, but it requires ignoring facts.

underpants

(182,763 posts)
9. Civil war magazines, museums, and monuments
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jun 2016

I have relatives who subscribe to civil war magazines. I think they are published monthly. They actually create enough content to publish to this day. Amazing.

Living in Richmond I am surrounded by this stuff. We have the White House of the Confederacy museum (I'm almost certain it's funded by the Sons of Confederate Veterans) and you can't swing a 5x8 battle flag around here without hitting a second place trophy (monuments).

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