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niyad

(113,265 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:36 PM Jan 2016

‘We Don’t Want Bloodshed’: Armed White Militants in Oregon v. Paiute Tribe

‘We Don’t Want Bloodshed’: Armed White Militants in Oregon v. Paiute Tribe
Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2016/01/12/we-dont-want-bloodshed-armed-white-militants-oregon-v-paiute-tribe-163046

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A man stands guard after members of several organizations arrived at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon on Saturday.


Yet more armed, white militants, members of the Pacific Patriots Network arrived in Burns, Oregon this weekend. They claimed to be there to prevent another Ruby Ridge or Waco by providing a buffer between Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher who drove BLM officers off his land with guns in 2014, and law enforcement. Carrying guns, they presented a resolution to the FBI and local law enforcement calling for the return of land to the people of Harney County—and surprisingly, recommended co-management with the Burns Paiute Tribe.

Burns Paiute tribal chairperson Charlotte Roderique has stated to the media her irritation with Bundy and his “militia” supporters goal of “giving back the land to ranchers.” “It’s been validated we’ve been here since 15,000 years ago,” she told ICTMN. “These people are ignorant of the history and that they don’t think about the statements they are making. They are misinformed.”

The Northern Paiutes signed a treaty with the U.S. Government in 1868 that was not ratified and the land, including that of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge remains unceded tribal territory. The refuge was once part of the 1.78 million acre Malheur Indian reservation. Constant attacks and encroachment of their lands by white settlers led to the Bannock Indian War, which the Northern Paiute bands lost. In retribution, 500 tribal members were forcibly marched in January of 1879 350 miles to present-day Yakama Nation—many shackled together in knee-deep snow. When they were able to return years later they found their lands were sold off to white settlers and corporations.

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Some animosity towards Native people can be seen in the Harney County Committee of Safety, a local group Bundy started which refers to Natives as “savages" in their statement of purpose:


(From the Harney County Committee of Safety website.)
(From the Harney County Committee of Safety website.)

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Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2016/01/12/we-dont-want-bloodshed-armed-white-militants-oregon-v-paiute-tribe-163046

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Community got together to protect "from the savages."
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jan 2016

LOL. Just stupider and stupider. It's very clear that when these embarrassments to America arrived they had absolutely no idea that white settlers might not be the first owners. And they're not changing their minds.

Obviously "savages" are without rights and irrelevant. I'm still wondering, though, if a light briefly flickered when they were in town researching the papers documenting the sale of land by ranchers to the federal government.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Whoops, did it again. Thought I was posting in the
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jan 2016

General Forum. Sorry in case some here don't share my sense of humor, etc.

Niyad, for sure. But how much would you be willing to bet that any of these constitution lovers ever even tried to read the one-sentence property clause? Oh, geeze. Might as well laugh...

niyad

(113,265 posts)
8. yes, we might as well laugh--beats banging one's head against a wall.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jan 2016

every time I hear the phrase "constitutional law" from some people, I want to ask if they have ever actually READ said constitutional, preferably with some degree of comprehension and intelligence.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Since the constitution is a product of mostly liberal,
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jan 2016

enlightenment thought, etc., whenever I hear any hard-right crusade in its defense I assume the worst.

niyad

(113,265 posts)
11. I am also tempted to ask which of the some 500 versions of the bible they mean, and if
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jan 2016

they can actually read aramaic.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. LOL! Questions like that only remind them that
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 08:50 AM
Jan 2016

you do not share their wisdom and it's a waste of time trying to explain. And whatever Aramaic is, it's obviously foreign and has nothing to do with Jesus.

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
4. LOL Offer Indian tribe a cooperation agreement
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jan 2016

with armed rebels who consider them savages? Wonder how that would turn out.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Remember John Wayne is a big time hero
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jan 2016

in and around the Bundy Ranch's. And many of their family members were extras during movie shoot's back in the day. Southern Utah and Northern Arizona as well as the Mesquite Nevada area was used as Movie Backdrop's. Still playing Cowboys and Indians.

niyad

(113,265 posts)
9. what is that phrase used by the gub-mint hating reichwingnutjobs that is supposed to be
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jan 2016

the scariest phrase in the language. . . .oh, yeah. . ."we're from the government, and we're here to help"

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