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Related: About this forumStreak over...Heat finally lose
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bluedigger
(17,077 posts)Well, if it was easy...
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Without Rose . . .
Iggo
(47,486 posts)Pretty much
trumad
(41,692 posts)Point is... 27 straight wins in todays NBA is unbelievable.
bluedigger
(17,077 posts)I'm sure there will be some angst amongst their fans, but they should be very proud of their team's accomplishment. I'm not so sure I put that much weight on it happening in today's NBA. There are factors that make it both more and less difficult than in the past. Increased travel vs. dilution of talent and increased familiarity with the opposition come to mind right off the top of my head, for instance. But it is very impressive in any case - they are one of the most dominant teams ever.
trumad
(41,692 posts)I say there is more talent in today's NBA.
Simply because international players play in the NBA.
bluedigger
(17,077 posts)Maybe we should, that's what the group is for, after all.
You do make a fair point, but I would counter that the expansion of the league is as significant as the influx of foreign players, who were never prohibited in the first place, and who now have competitive leagues in their own countries in many cases.
trumad
(41,692 posts)I simply marvel at the athleticism of today's players.
James is a total blast to watch play.
bluedigger
(17,077 posts)You always have to judge players against their competition, of course. I doubt Mike Ditka would even make today's NFL, much less be a HOFer. Competitive spirit only takes you so far.
The Heat in general have grown on me. I'll always root against them as long as I have a drop of green blood left in my Celtic veins, but I don't dislike them on anything near the visceral level of my hate for the Fakers. They are a classy enough group of guys, and I particularly like their willingness to embrace social causes, unlike some (I'm looking at you, Mike.)
trumad
(41,692 posts)They're just balling like crazy lately.
madinmaryland
(64,920 posts)Both are incredible records.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)Longest sports streak in the history of pro sports.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)I remember Wilt saying that the athletes were better now however we shot better and ran plays better. I agree with both of those sentiments. If all the athletes are at the same level then it is the "same".
That being said I remember that Laker team very well and as great as they were the Knicks would have beaten them in the championship series. The Knicks beat them by 30 points in the opening game to steal home court but Dave Debuscherre suffered a hip pointe in that game and never played again in the series. They lost the best power forward in the game. great defensive player and great outside shooter.
The Knicks had just the right match up with Jerry Lucas playing center for the Knicks. He nullified Chamberlain by his shooting. He would kill the 3 point line today. He launched 30 footers and as Havlicek said he could shoot with anyone in the league.
Watch the 1973 championship when the Knicks won their second championship(the only one of those teams during that era that won 2)which included Boston, Lakers and Milwaukee.
If you ever get a chance to see highlights of the '73 series (Knicks, Lakers) Lucas is launching a 30 foter and Chamberlain is running to try to cover him and I thought Chamberlain was going to cry.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Love your history...
Dude.. I've grown to admire the words you post here.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)well appreciated.
the greatest dribbler of all time- no palming and couldn't even dunk
and no on can tell me that Kareem wouldn't dominate today.
trumad
(41,692 posts)That boy could dribble.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)and he grew as a player. I remember Pistol at LSU and all how much he chucked which carried over to the pros. Monroe ended up being a good defensive player because that was important to the Knicks. Pistol could do lot's of great offensive plays and he also would be effective today. He was 6'5".
hughee99
(16,113 posts)For the four major sports, of course, you're right.
For the other professional sports, I found these interesting...
Julio Caesar Chavez won 87 consecutive bouts
Horse Racing
56 races Camarero from '53-'55
Tennis
74 matches Martina Navratilova (in 1984)
Beach Volleyball
112 match wins, 19 tournament wins Misty May-Treanor and Kerri Walsh (from 2007-2008)
And in squash...
555 matches Jahangir Khan (from 1981-1986)
and although they didn't keep specific match records for squash at the time
Heather McKay (Australia) may hold a claim to having the longest winning streak as she went unbeaten for 19 years (19621981)
Renew Deal
(81,801 posts)They deserve a lot of credit for that.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Lebron James claimed that the Bulls were mean and played him physically. Apparently when he runs people over it's fun and games, but when he gets it back, he cries about it. Someday people will learn that most of the time if you preface a statement with "I'm not _____, but" you're probably about to do exactly that. Whether it's I'm not crying, or I'm not a racist, etc.
It's especially funny because he himself committed a flagrant foul in the same game, intentionally lowering his shoulder and throwing an elbow in an attempt to run somebody over. But I'm sure in his mind it's different when he does it, or maybe he's just that sore of a loser.
We've come a long way from Wilt Chamberlain noting that nobody roots for Goliath to the NBA (and to be fair sports in general) where whining is king, or in this case King James.
trumad
(41,692 posts)You didn't even watch the fucking game but you're quacking like a jealous douchebag.
Best basketball player on the planet. Eat it.