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Related: About this forumNFL.com Rookie of the Year nominees..
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
Von Miller, Denver Broncos
Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
Patrick Peterson, Arizona Cardinals
Aldon Smith, San Francisco 49ers
You can vote for your favorite here...
http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/2011/YEAR/0?module=HP11_content_stream_voting_pepsi
Auggie
(31,025 posts)He took the Bengals to the playoffs
maximusveritas
(2,915 posts)but he didn't do it single-handedly and his individual performance was not even in the same league as Newton.
Auggie
(31,025 posts)But I'll be honest -- I haven't seen much of these guys. I base my observation solely on the outcome: making the playoffs.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Is how successful team-wise would Cam Newton be with Cincinnati's defense. Cincinnati is T-7 in pass defense(YPA) while Carolina is dead last in pass defense. Conversely, how successful would Dalton be with Carolina's atrochious year.
I think Newton was phonemonal as far as rookie QBs go.
(I can't find spell-check so bear with me)
Auggie
(31,025 posts)BENGALS:
Wins: Browns (twice), Bills, Jaguars, Colts, Seahawks, Titans, Rams, Cardinals.
Losses: Broncos, 49ers, Steelers (twice), Texans, Ravens (twice)
PANTHERS:
Wins: Jaguars, Redskins, Colts, Texans, Buccaneers (twice)
Losses: Cardinals, Packers, Bears, Saints (twice), Falcons (twice), Vikings, Titans, Lions
INDIVIDUAL STATS
Dalton: 3,398 yds passing @ 58.1% completion rate; 20 tds, 13 ints / 152 yds rushing / Sacked 25*
Newton: 4,051 yds passing @ 60% completion rate; 21 tds, 17 ints / 706 yds rushing / Sacked 35*
*team totals
About even, except where Newton loses in ints he wins in rushing yardage.
Schedules and stats from bengals.com / panthers.com
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)is the yards per attempt. Newton tossed the ball 517 times and gained 4,051 yards. Dalton threw the ball 516 times.
Opponents may have something to do with it but from what I've seen the Cincinnati D appeared significantly stronger. Interesting that Carolina defeated Houston in Houston and it looks like Cincinnati will fall to them twice.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)I don't even need to explain.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,184 posts)I would have given Miller more credit, but he missed some games. Newton didn't.
Got to give it to a guy who played all the games and did so well in the first year on a really bad team.
He at least made them interesting.