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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:44 PM Nov 2013

Man Up: Declaring a war on warrior culture in the wake of the Miami Dolphins bullying scandal

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9939308/richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-miami-dolphins-bullying-scandal

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I guess the nuanced line on the scandal in Miami is that a locker room is a complicated organism, and the aggression/affection dynamic between teammates is impossible for outsiders to understand.2 Maybe that's true. But there are boundaries in locker rooms, same as anywhere else, and those boundaries are culturally conditioned, same as anywhere else, and they change with time, and they can be influenced. And it would be really good, it would be a really good thing, if the NFL moved its boundaries in such a way as to show some minimal respect for mental health. Not just for PR purposes, but because for as hell-bent as we seem on turning football players into gods without dignity, humanity doesn't stop the moment you strap on a Dolphins helmet. I don't know when football forgot that fact, but the evidence is overwhelming that it needs to remember.

There will always be locker-room assholes. They should be curtailed. And when a player says he needs time off for mental reasons — again: in a sport with a suicide problem — it shouldn't spark a national conversation on whether he's soft.

I am here to hurt you, so I'll also say this: You're a warrior, cool. What the hell are you a warrior for? I'm sorry if this makes it sound like I have emotions other than anger — I assure you that I don't — but tell me this: What's the point of being strong if all you stand for is abusing a suffering teammate? Those guys who taught me that when you see a problem, you step up and solve it, all those anonymous sources foaming on about how to be a man — is that what they think "being a man" is? I mean, nothing about protecting someone who's struggling in your big gender equation, then? Nothing about, like, knowing right from wrong?

Here's what I can't stop thinking: There were so many tough men in that Dolphins locker room. The unwritten code of football is that you handle your business in-house. Any one of these men could have said something to stop Incognito and help Martin. Any one of them could have handled it. They're warriors, right? They're paragons of strength. And yeah, there are complex reasons why they didn't. But they didn't."




He says what needs to be said.
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Man Up: Declaring a war on warrior culture in the wake of the Miami Dolphins bullying scandal (Original Post) HuckleB Nov 2013 OP
Trumad needs to read this...his love of the Dullphins is blind love... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #1
The same could be said for any team. Nt madinmaryland Nov 2013 #2
Thank you trumad Nov 2013 #4
That's pathetic... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #5
What you said is fucking pathetic, joey. Making up bullshit about trumad does not belong here. madinmaryland Nov 2013 #8
Screw you... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #9
Dude. What ever it is you are on, lay off of it... madinmaryland Nov 2013 #12
Please--- trumad Nov 2013 #3
And you had a murderous thug at your school... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #6
Yeah---don't we all have our shit heads. trumad Nov 2013 #7
Sorry, I guess there's no difference between finding out it's not one asshole... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #10
Like your Cheatriots?? RockaFowler Nov 2013 #11
Nice try trumad Nov 2013 #13
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
1. Trumad needs to read this...his love of the Dullphins is blind love...
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:51 PM
Nov 2013

The whole organization stinks.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
8. What you said is fucking pathetic, joey. Making up bullshit about trumad does not belong here.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:39 PM
Nov 2013

Get a grip, and maybe layoff the bottle.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
12. Dude. What ever it is you are on, lay off of it...
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:54 PM
Nov 2013

trumad is not defending what is going on with the dolphins (or any other team for that matter).

And no, I will not shut the fuck up.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
3. Please---
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:08 PM
Nov 2013

Dude---you had a murdering gangster on your team.

Sure I love the Phins--- but am I siding with Incognito? Fuck no and fuck anyone who says I am

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
6. And you had a murderous thug at your school...
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:11 PM
Nov 2013

Oh, and I guess wanting to shit in someone's mouth is just affection ribbing in your world.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. Sorry, I guess there's no difference between finding out it's not one asshole...
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:41 PM
Nov 2013

But an entire organization's culture that sucks.

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