Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:24 PM
MarkCharles (2,261 posts)
"What Bible is Santorum Reading?"When conservative Congressman Todd Akin a few months back suggested that liberalism was a “hatred of God,” I postulated that given the overwhelming support for liberal and progressive values in the Judeo-Christian Bible, perhaps he had never bothered to actually read the Bible. With Rick Santorum's recent comment that Obama's agenda is "Some phony theology. Oh, not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology,” I am now beginning to wonder if Santorum, Akin, and other conservatives are just reading a different Bible entirely than the one I read.
In fact, as I noted in my piece about Todd Akin, Jesus talks about mercy to those in trouble in 24 verses of the Gospels, tells people not to judge in 34 verses, tells people to love and forgive even their enemies in 53 verses, tells people to love their neighbors as themselves and treat others as they would want to be treated in 19 verses, and specifically tells people to help the poor and/or spurn riches and the wealthy in 128 verses.
That is a lot of verses, 258 by my count, where Rick Santorum's savior and George W. Bush's favorite philosopher sounds like a tried and true, solid to the core, far-out, lefty liberal. And all those where Jesus sounds like a conservative? I couldn't find a single one. He never once condemns abortion, even though it was very common in ancient times. He never speaks against homosexuality, even though the ancient Greeks before him and the Romans living in those times openly practiced and celebrated it. He called on the Romans and the Jewish establishment to treat the poor better, not condemn an adulteress to death, and to take the moneychangers out of the temple, but he never once asked the Romans to lower their taxes or lessen their regulations on over-burdened businesses. He never celebrated the greatness of the invisible hand of the market, and never discussed the virtues of selfishness, as conservatives today are so fond of doing. More and a video we can all pass up, (Santorum lecturing) at: http://crooksandliars.com/mike-lux/what-bible-santorum-reading
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MarkCharles | Feb 2012 | OP |
WingDinger | Feb 2012 | #1 | |
DCKit | Feb 2012 | #7 | |
msongs | Feb 2012 | #9 | |
Thats my opinion | Feb 2012 | #14 | |
ChairmanAgnostic | Feb 2012 | #2 | |
sulphurdunn | Feb 2012 | #3 | |
liberal N proud | Feb 2012 | #4 | |
safeinOhio | Feb 2012 | #5 | |
DCKit | Feb 2012 | #6 | |
WingDinger | Feb 2012 | #8 | |
TrogL | Feb 2012 | #10 | |
Igel | Feb 2012 | #11 | |
cleanhippie | Feb 2012 | #12 | |
MarkCharles | Feb 2012 | #13 |
Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:32 PM
WingDinger (3,690 posts)
1. Never fear, Rambo Jesus is here.
The Conservative Bible Project is a project utilizing the "best of the public" to render God's word into modern English without liberal translation distortions.[1] A Colbert Report interview featured this project.[2] We completed our translation of the New Testament on April 23, 2010.
Already our translators have identified numerous pro-abortion distortions that omit or twist clear references to the unborn child. Liberal bias has become the single biggest distortion in modern Bible translations. There are three sources of errors in conveying biblical meaning are, in increasing amount: lack of precision in the original language, such as terms underdeveloped to convey new concepts introduced by Christ lack of precision in modern language translation bias, mainly of the liberal kind, in converting the original language to the modern one. http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project |
Response to WingDinger (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:38 PM
DCKit (18,541 posts)
7. Can you even imagine what that crew could do in 'translating' Dickens?
Tiny Tim and Oliver Twist would probably become the most evil, society destroying villains ever seen in print.
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Response to WingDinger (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:54 PM
msongs (65,202 posts)
9. umm "christ" introduced nothing, it was the living Jesus that did according to the myths nt
Response to WingDinger (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:36 PM
Thats my opinion (2,001 posts)
14. The ONLY mention of abortion in the whole Bible is a prescription for obtaining one.
Numbers 4 :16-28 A terrible sexist bit.
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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:35 PM
ChairmanAgnostic (28,017 posts)
2. you satanic evil devil worshiper! How dare you
quote their wholly book back at them? Didn't they say that the antichrist would quote the bible against the truly faithfool? Obviously Santorium is right, because his book says that he is. Even if he hasn't read it. Ergo, any criticism of him and his approach to faith is the devil's work. See?
PS, don't you DARE try to argue with me using facts. We all know that facts have a liberal bias. |
Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:40 PM
sulphurdunn (6,891 posts)
3. For the most part,
American fundamentalism bears more resemblance to the financial doctrines of John Calvin than to the social gospel of Jesus of Nazareth.
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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:44 PM
liberal N proud (59,606 posts)
4. Relgious fundies genuinely believe that their version of God is the ultimate truth
It's like getting lost in a fantasy.
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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:34 PM
safeinOhio (29,300 posts)
5. They serve two masters.
Last edited Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1) Their prophet Ayn Rand was the sworn enemy of the one they claim to follow.
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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:34 PM
DCKit (18,541 posts)
6. Jesus was humanist, secularist and socialist.
Few who claim to be Christian follow the teachings of Christ. Especially the really loud ones.
I expect it's the obvious hypocrisy that has driven so many of us from their temples. Their real God is capitalism and the quest for wealth. Are we not ill with hearing about the preachers from the mega-churches who live (tax/rent free) in mega-mansions, ride in helicopters to services and demand tithing from those who can least afford it? There was some noise last year about going after some of the most egregious offenders. As usual, it was just noise. |
Response to DCKit (Reply #6)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:45 PM
WingDinger (3,690 posts)
8. Yup, Constantine made religion theocracy.
And now we have idiots that think forced worship, will shower the USA with God's blessings. Of course what is a calvinist carrot, without the stick. Punish the poor and ill till they prove, if you dont work, you dont eat.
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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 05:16 PM
TrogL (32,761 posts)
10. Probably the NIV
He'll switch to the Conservative Bible when it comes out
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Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:14 PM
Igel (33,281 posts)
11. Incest, pedophilia, and occupation/tyranny also not mentioned.
Arguments from silence are thorny.
For example, rebuking Caesar for not collecting taxes to help the poor. Or even saying that the Pharisees and Sadducees should increase the tithe to help the poor. And here are are, Syrian protesters, and all Jesus would say is that they're not rendering to Assad what is Assad's. Odd, that. Then again, he did often quote the Tanakh, so maybe he regarded it as a kind of authority. Not that this could possibly mean anything. |
Response to MarkCharles (Original post)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 05:38 PM
cleanhippie (19,705 posts)
12. The same one that all christians read.
Which makes any interpretation of it irrelevant to anything other than an internal discussion about who is interpreting it correctly.
This is THE reason that religious beliefs have no place outside of religion. Ever. |
Response to cleanhippie (Reply #12)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 07:07 PM
MarkCharles (2,261 posts)
13. You cut right to the core, so skillfully!
Exactly! The Bible Santorum reads is the same one anyone else can read, and misinterpret, so as to throw out science, to hug ignorance. The very SAME BIBLE!!!
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