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Today is the Feast of The Baptism of the Lord. (Original Post) hrmjustin Jan 2014 OP
Was there baptism before John the Baptist? No Vested Interest Jan 2014 #1
I think baptism was a form of worship before John. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #2
I think there must have been. Schema Thing Jan 2014 #3
I never knew they existed. I hope they still exist. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #4
Baptism is related to the ritual bathing, or Mikve in Judaism Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #5
That's a very good question. I was curious about it too. rug Jan 2014 #6
Thanks to all for responses - very helpful. No Vested Interest Jan 2014 #7

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
1. Was there baptism before John the Baptist?
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:05 PM
Jan 2014

Correct me if I don't have it correct:
John the Baptist was baptizing people before he baptized Jesus, IIRC.
Did other Jews practice baptism?
What became of the persons John baptized?

I'm presuming they were Jews. Immediately after their baptism, were they any different, religiously, than other Jews of their time?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. I think baptism was a form of worship before John.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jan 2014

I always wondered why the do the baptism of the lord before the feast of the presentation.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
3. I think there must have been.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jan 2014

This is a question or epiphany I also had, late in my time as a believer - "what the heck was baptism about anyway, especially since it already existed when Jesus came around?". Where and why did it start?


It would be interesting to learn more about the beliefs, wrt this, of the baptizing sect of Iraq, the Mandaeans (if they exist there anymore, the war may have finished them). They are a religion that revere John the Baptist, and are not Christian.

"Its adherents, the Mandaeans, revere Adam, Abel, Seth, Enosh, Noah, Shem, Aram and especially John the Baptist, but reject Abraham, Moses and Jesus of Nazareth.[3][4]


I see from Wiki that they are mostly gone from Iraq into Iran.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. Baptism is related to the ritual bathing, or Mikve in Judaism
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:37 PM
Jan 2014

So, yes, there was Baptism, they just didn't use that word. The word Baptism comes from Greek.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
7. Thanks to all for responses - very helpful.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 09:02 PM
Jan 2014

Obviously, it's a big subject - may be more than I want to go into at this time.

I'm not as aware as many re various Jewish practices. -
I think I learned more from "Seinfeld" than I knew otherwise. - Not really, but Judaism is very deep and complex.

Just as I'm aware many here and elsewhere do not know much re Roman Catholicism, there's surely at least as large a gap re knowledge of Judaism.

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