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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:17 PM Jan 2014

Eighty percent of congregation quits after Indiana church forces out gay choir director

Adam Fraley told The Herald Bulletin that he worked for the United Methodist Church in Alexandria for six years and attended with his partner. When a new minister took over the church last year, Fraley said that he resigned because of pressure about his sexual orientation.

United Methodist Church law allows LGBT people to attend church services but says “self-avowed, practicing homosexuals are not to be certified as candidates, ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve.”

Many members of the church, who supported Fraley, were at odds over what it meant to “serve.”

Indiana Conference of the United Methodist Church Communication Director told The Herald Bulletin that LGBT people were only prohibited from being ordained as ministers and that all other posts could be decided by church leadership.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/13/eighty-percent-of-congregation-quits-after-indiana-church-forces-out-gay-choir-director/
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Eighty percent of congregation quits after Indiana church forces out gay choir director (Original Post) SecularMotion Jan 2014 OP
Good for them. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #1
Good! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #2
Finally Historic NY Jan 2014 #3
Why are people always so surprised skepticscott Jan 2014 #4
Up until that point they seemed happy with discrimination against LGBT people... uriel1972 Jan 2014 #5
Excellent. trotsky Jan 2014 #6
Too bad so many others lack the courage to do this. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #7
Very cool. Would love to see more of this. cbayer Jan 2014 #8
This is what anti-theism accomplishes skepticscott Jan 2014 #9
Another view on this: trotsky Jan 2014 #10
Kicking to remind other believers that they have the power to effect change in their church. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #11
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
4. Why are people always so surprised
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jan 2014

when the bigoted organizations they belong to turn out to be...bigoted?

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
5. Up until that point they seemed happy with discrimination against LGBT people...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:19 AM
Jan 2014

So human, to only care when you see it touches someone you know of. Still better late than never... I guess.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
7. Too bad so many others lack the courage to do this.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jan 2014

Imagine the change that could be effected if Catholics did this.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
9. This is what anti-theism accomplishes
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jan 2014

Is this another of the causes you support and that anti-theism harms?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. Another view on this:
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:46 AM
Jan 2014
No. I Won’t Give Churchgoers Cookies For Doing the Minimally Decent Thing.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2014/01/14/no-i-wont-give-churchgoers-cookies-for-doing-the-minimally-decent-thing/
I’m not going to give them unstinting praise for doing what tens of thousands of other Christians have done when they had a quibble with their church, and splitting, thus leading to the wide variety of Christian denominations who plague our world today. I’ve seen 80% of a church schism over whether or not they should go doorknocking after church on Sunday afternoons. I’m supposed to be impressed when 80% walk over basic human rights? Puh-leeze.

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No, here’s my response to them:

You lot did the minimally decent thing. You stood by a man who was wronged, and that is good. But what I want to know is this: why did you leave your church in the hands of the bigot who forced him out? Eighty percent of you could have ensured that asshole didn’t have a job. You could have found a more enlightened minister, and then rehired your choir director, and taught the bigots a lasting lesson. That would have been praiseworthy. Think of that the next time you encounter this situation – which you will, because nothing’s changed.
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