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edhopper

(33,487 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:07 AM Feb 2014

NY Times; A Church So Poor It Has to Close Schools, Yet So Rich It Can Build a Palace

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/20/nyregion/a-church-so-poor-it-has-to-close-schools-yet-so-rich-it-can-build-a-palace.html?ref=nyregion

"Mater Dei Academy sits shuttered, blue drapes pulled across its windows, atop a hill in this working-class city. From its steps, you can peer across the mist-shrouded expanse of the Meadowlands to the distant spires of Manhattan.

John J. Myers, the archbishop of the Newark Archdiocese, comes to this vacation home on many weekends. The 4,500-square-foot home has a handsome amoeba-shaped swimming pool out back. And as he’s 72, and retirement beckons in two years, he has renovations in mind. A small army of workers are framing a 3,000-square-foot addition.

This new wing will have an indoor exercise pool, three fireplaces and an elevator. The Star-Ledger of Newark has noted that the half-million-dollar tab for this wing does not include architects’ fees or furnishings."


Keep those donation plates full, it's all going to "good works"
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NY Times; A Church So Poor It Has to Close Schools, Yet So Rich It Can Build a Palace (Original Post) edhopper Feb 2014 OP
My guess he will get a call from the Vatican and retire a bit early. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #1
Or get promoted. Goblinmonger Feb 2014 #6
The pope removed the bishop in Germany that had a 40 million dollar house built. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #7
Do you understand what you're talking about? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2014 #14
No I guess I don't know! hrmjustin Feb 2014 #15
The old "sell the art works, feed the poor" argument. No Vested Interest Feb 2014 #8
"again and again" Goblinmonger Feb 2014 #9
That should make it easy to refute again FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #10
No intention of going over the obvious. No Vested Interest Feb 2014 #12
I wonder how the Pope feels about this. Sanity Claws Feb 2014 #2
A nicely written article. Loved the end. CrispyQ Feb 2014 #3
It is. It's worth repeating. rug Feb 2014 #5
The pope should make an example out of this guy. cbayer Feb 2014 #4
Apparently he didn't learn from the example okasha Feb 2014 #11
He sounds exceedingly greedy, which are the worst kinds of blinders. cbayer Feb 2014 #13
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
6. Or get promoted.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:00 PM
Feb 2014

Are we pretending that the Vatican isn't sitting on billions of dollars of art work while the Pope "fights for the poor"?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
14. Do you understand what you're talking about?
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 12:38 PM
Feb 2014

Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst was not suspended for having an expensive house. He was suspended because he is a public relations nightmare.

He perjured himself in court; under the guise of "austerity", he fired lay employees, and cut the pay and benefits of those who remained; and he diverted charity money to the remodeling of his very expensive estate. By the time Frankie inserted himself into the situation, the German press had been flogging van Elst for months, and German dioceses began reporting "significant increases in the number of leaving the church."

No Vested Interest

(5,164 posts)
8. The old "sell the art works, feed the poor" argument.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 01:03 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Thu Feb 20, 2014, 01:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Not as though it hasn't been refuted again and again.
Please continue, sir.

No Vested Interest

(5,164 posts)
12. No intention of going over the obvious.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 07:43 PM
Feb 2014

Some need to educate themselves before coming on boards only to grind their old axes.
Their lack of knowledge is not my concern, is annoying to those who come to be informed.

As for me, I'm on vacation & going to enjoy a meal out

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
2. I wonder how the Pope feels about this.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:11 AM
Feb 2014

He suspended a German bishop for making a luxury residence and turned the residence into a soup kitchen. http://www.christianpost.com/news/bishop-of-blings-42-million-german-residence-to-be-turned-into-soup-kitchen-108115/

I would love it if the pope did that here.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
3. A nicely written article. Loved the end.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:18 AM
Feb 2014

What an arrogant ass this Myers is. I hope he hears from the Pope.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
5. It is. It's worth repeating.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:57 AM
Feb 2014
Some months back, I attended a Mass celebrated for the Rev. John Grange. He was a plain-spoken worker priest, a man who walked with striking workers, picketed a slumlord and faced down a Bronx political boss.

When he died in October, he was laid out in a simple coffin in his beloved St. Jerome Church in the South Bronx, and every pew overflowed with Latino working men and women, their children and crying babies.

I watched those parishioners weep. And when the time came, I watched them pull out folded dollars and fill the offering plates.

That was grace.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/nyregion/rev-john-grange-who-welcomed-bronxs-latinos-dies-at-73.html

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. The pope should make an example out of this guy.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:23 AM
Feb 2014

If the information in this article is accurate, he is despicable.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
13. He sounds exceedingly greedy, which are the worst kinds of blinders.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:43 AM
Feb 2014

I'm glad to see him getting this kind of attention and hope there is a backlash.

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