Gay patient says Catholic chaplain refused him last rites

[trotsky]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/gay-patient-says-catholic-chaplain-refused-him-last-rites/2014/02/19/35d163f6-99b1-11e3-80ac-63a8ba7f7942_story.html

According to Plishka, he asked Coelho for Communion and last rites, more commonly called the Anointing of the Sick. Coelho asked whether he would like to say confession first, and Plishka said he began to talk about his history, including his lifelong struggle with his sexuality. Plishka didn’t come out as gay until he was in his 50s.

“Then we started talking about the pope, and I said I was so excited about him, because of what he said about gays. I said, ‘Does that bother you, that I’m gay?’ And he said ‘no,’ ” Plishka said.

The conversation was interrupted by someone coming into the room, which he shared with another patient, Plishka recalled. After that, Coelho “would not continue” with the specific prayers and acts of Communion and anointing, Plishka said. “He said, ‘I will pray with you,’ but that’s all he’d do. That was it.

[rug]

1. GD thread from four days ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024515807

[doc03]

2. Aren't these the men that have a habit of molesting young boys? n/t

[trotsky]

3. But insist they have the right to morally lecture everyone else, yup. n/t

[skepticscott]

4. Guess he didn't get the memo from Frank

about loving and tolerance and not being obsessed with sexual matters.

Another noise blast too, I see.

[hrmjustin]

5. I have never seen that before. Not very Christ like.

[skepticscott]

6. You need to get out more

and stop presuming, as others do, that your limited personal experience, or lack thereof, is evidence for anything. And also that you know anything about what Jesus, if he existed at all, was really like.

[trotsky]

7. In your opinion.

It is still an official Catholic teaching that homosexuality is "intrinsically disordered."

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html

In the discussion which followed the publication of the Declaration, however, an overly benign interpretation was given to the homosexual condition itself, some going so far as to call it neutral, or even good. Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder.

Therefore special concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not.

[hrmjustin]

8. I have never heard it done before.

[trotsky]

9. That may very well be true.

But that doesn't mean it can't (or doesn't) happen.

[hrmjustin]

10. that is true. perhaps in other nations it is common.

[Goblinmonger]

11. Well, acting on your homosexuality is a mortal sin

And since I'm on a roll of teaching people what the actual Canon of the RCC is, here's this tidbit:

Canon 1007
The anointing of the sick is not to be conferred upon those who obstinately persist in manifest serious sin.

So, it is clear Canon that this guy should not have received this sacrament. Sorry that that doesn't sit with what one may think the Church should be about, but it fits with the actual dogma of the church.

[trotsky]

12. So yeah, it appears according to official church teachings...

this priest was 100% correct to deny the man last rites. Sad.