We all love to hate scientology. Can we agree that its flock suffers from a mass delusion?

[Warren Stupidity]

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[hrmjustin]

1. I hate no one!

[AtheistCrusader]

6. That wasn't the question, nor the preamble.

'We all love to hate scientology"

Your response implies that claim (which may or may not be accurate) is about loving to hate people who happen to be scientologists.

I hate lots of ideas that certain people subscribe to, but that doesn't mean I hate those individual people.

[hrmjustin]

8. I do not hate Scientology.

[Warren Stupidity]

13. Why not? It is fucking despicable.

C'mon Justin, fess up, you hate scientology just a little bit.

[hrmjustin]

15. No I don't hate it but I agree that their practices are highly questionable.

[stone space]

2. Carefull.

I had a poll hidden in this forum just this morning by a DU Jury 7-0 for asking the question,

True or false?: Atheists are mentally ill purely by virtue of being atheists.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218147328

You are treading on very thin ice, here. Your question is not much different from mine.

[amuse bouche]

5. Nevermind the lecture. Answer the question

[stone space]

9. I answered the poll.

But I do think that a warning is appropriate so that the OP can benefit from my own experience.

I don't imagine that it will be long before this poll suffers the same fate that mine did.

[amuse bouche]

12. BTW, your poll was stunningly dumb...but par for the course

We are all born atheists, and remain so, until the the family brainwashing begins

[Starboard Tack]

29. Yeah! We're all born without manners too.

And we poop all over ourselves.

[amuse bouche]

30. So not pooping yourself is the same as religious brainwashing

You definitely have a case with that

[Warren Stupidity]

14. There are so many deranged atheists on DU that your hide was inevitable.

You should have known that, since you have been arguing that atheists are a privileged class.

[stone space]

16. Where have I argued this?

since you have been arguing that atheists are a privileged class.

Link, please.

[Warren Stupidity]

18. I have other ways of knowing. Lack of a link is not proof that one does not exist.

[stone space]

19. In other words, you lied. (nt)

[Warren Stupidity]

20. Oh so wait, people who believe things without evidence are liars?

I may have been deluded into thinking that you think atheists are a privileged class here.

[Warren Stupidity]

22. Start here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=147343

You clearly feel there is some double standard and that attacking atheists is treated differently than attacking theists and that atheists get treated better.

But I digress. I am fascinated that you think that everyone who says they believe in god is a liar as they have no evidence to back up that belief.

[stone space]

23. Wrong link.

It doesn't support your lie.

[Warren Stupidity]

25. Correct it doesn't support any lie. It is you whining about atheist privilege

and your post getting hidden for attacking atheists.

[hrmjustin]

26. Yet the other poll was kept.

[stone space]

27. Here is the claim you are attempting to find support for.

...since you have been arguing that atheists are a privileged class.

Your link has me saying nothing of the sort.

But if you disagree, feel free to follow your link and quote me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=147343

[EvolveOrConvolve]

38. Oh dear, it appears you're not getting the point Warren was trying to make

Makes for amusing reading, though.

[stone space]

39. What is the point of a lie? (nt)

[EvolveOrConvolve]

40. Oh dear, you're still not getting it

[hrmjustin]

41. please help out then.

[stone space]

24. Just to assist you, here is the claim you are trying to find support for.

...since you have been arguing that atheists are a privileged class.

[mr blur]

35. No, your poll was a stupid OP designed to provoke exactly what you got.

And spare us your "I've been an Atheist for over fifty years and my Atheist Beliefs are better than yours 'cos I love Christians and they have so much to teach us why can't you be nice to them I'm so happy here with my believing buddies blah blah drone..."

[stone space]

36. Designed to provoke in what way?

Don't you think that atheists have just as much right to see what the DU community feels about our beliefs as theists do?

Or is this just a privilege reserved for religious folks?

[hrmjustin]

42. Was the othe poll insulting to believers?

[amuse bouche]

3. I often see these nuts at the local flea market, offering a free 'stress test'

using some kind of red box contraption. I asked what the science was behind it and they said only their supervisor knows.

Goofy, gullible chumps

[bravenak]

4. They gave me an IQ test once.

Then tried to get me to spend time with them.

[AtheistCrusader]

7. I think agreeing to take the test is the test.

[bravenak]

10. Me too.

I was bored and my shift at the strip club wasn't starting for a while. Hollywood is crazy.

[AtheistCrusader]

31. I really wish I could remember which of my relatives sent me a dianetics book at graduation.

I have a score to settle.

[bravenak]

32. Remember that commercial from the 80's? Or 90's?

https://m.

It used to scare me.

[Htom Sirveaux]

11. No, because starting a dialogue with an individual by labeling them deluded

is an impediment to understanding them, and engenders defensiveness and hostility in return. I wouldn't do that to a Scientologist any more than I'd do it to a Mormon, a JW, a Catholic, a Satanist, a Pagan, etc.

[Warren Stupidity]

17. I think starting off a conversation with Tom Cruise or John Travolta

with "dude, your beliefs are a ludicrous delusion" would be the best place to start. Otherwise you are just sitting there thinking exactly that but dishonestly pretending otherwise.

Thetans? Seriously? Not a delusion?

[Htom Sirveaux]

34. It's not a category I use.

I can disagree with someone without it. So no, I wouldn't be thinking that.

[Starboard Tack]

28. Oh boy, Warren!

Looks like you've stooped to a whole new level.

We all love to hate scientology. Can we agree that its flock suffers from a mass delusion?

Bit of an assumption there. I doubt that most of us "love to hate" anything or anyone, let alone make psychiatric diagnoses of entire groups or segments of the population.

[okasha]

33. He's jumped the shark today.

And somebody else can explain the metaphor to him.

[rug]

37. Speaking in the plural is a symptom.

So are stupid generalizations.

[applegrove]

43. The leadership are psychopaths. They went after the science of

diagnosing psychopaths in a book called "The Psychopath Test". So the leadership of Scientology are very conscious they are psychopaths and run a cult.

[DrewFlorida]

44. LOL, and how is that different from other religions?