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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 05:48 AM Aug 2014

Exile Excitement: Some Fundamentalists Seek Escape From Decadent Society

OK, now we’ve done it. Those of us who advocate things like separation of church and state, secular government, LGBT rights and self-determination when it comes to issues of sexuality have really torqued off the Religious Right – so much so that some of them are thinking of going into exile.

Don’t get too excited. It’s not like they are going to flee en masse to some forgotten island or anything. Rather, some folks on the far, far right of the theological spectrum seem to be contemplating a type of “internal exile.” They’d hole up in a fundamentalist denomination until this current age of wickedness blows over.

David Gibson of Religion News Service described this phenomenon recently. Gibson wrote that a strain of Religious Right activists is “feeling increasingly alienated and even persecuted in the society they once claimed as their own. They’re shifting to another favorite image from Scripture – that of the Babylonian exile, preparing, as the ancient Judeans did, to preserve their faith in a hostile world.”

Gibson quoted Carl Trueman, a professor of church history at Westminster Theological Seminary in Glenside, Pa. Picking up on the Religious Right’s increasingly popular persecution theme, Trueman carped, “We live in a time of exile. At least those of us do who hold to traditional Christian beliefs.”

https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/exile-excitement-some-fundamentalists-seek-escape-from-decadent-society
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Exile Excitement: Some Fundamentalists Seek Escape From Decadent Society (Original Post) SecularMotion Aug 2014 OP
Good, they can get out of the way of social progress. trotsky Aug 2014 #1
"I'm taking my toys and going home" Good. Good motherfucker. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #3
Good. GTFO and stop voting. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #2
Worryingly, Trueman picks out 17th century Scottish Presbyterians and English Puritans as ones muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #4
He supports Calvinists. Who say that we are all - even Calvinists themselves - "totally depraved." Brettongarcia Aug 2014 #5
We're not taking any blame for Murdoch - he was an Australian, not a Brit muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #6
Jonestown Marrah_G Sep 2014 #7

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
1. Good, they can get out of the way of social progress.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 09:03 AM
Aug 2014

Hopefully it won't end up with another Branch Davidian incident.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
3. "I'm taking my toys and going home" Good. Good motherfucker.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 10:24 AM
Aug 2014

Because their toys are made of broken glass, lead, asbestos, orphans tears, and have a great big American flag painted in the middle of it, with a little 'made in china' in the corner where they never notice it even if someone points at it, painted on by an 11 year old in hellish conditions, working 16hr days, with a life expectancy of 15-20 from all the cadmium and shit they are ingesting.

Society will be better off without these cretins.

I too hope for a non-Waco repeat, but only because it makes the government look like assholes, when the real assholes were already front and center, talking to the camera crews about how society rejecting their bigotry is oppressive to them. They want to light themselves on fire on their own time, fine by me.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,308 posts)
4. Worryingly, Trueman picks out 17th century Scottish Presbyterians and English Puritans as ones
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 10:30 AM
Aug 2014

to emulate. You know, the people who were on one side of the British Civil Wars. "Exiles" such as Oliver Cromwell. All those people he had executed didn't see him as an 'exile', I suspect.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
5. He supports Calvinists. Who say that we are all - even Calvinists themselves - "totally depraved."
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 11:34 AM
Aug 2014

"Depraved" is the "T" in TULIP; the acronym for the core of Calvinist doctrine.

He is worrisome; another Brit like Rupert Murdoch, come to the United States to interfere with domestic politics.

This new wave of interest in Calvinism though, might be good. When Christians believe they themselves are "totally depraved," that can help their humility slightly.

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