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Fascinating.
I find this article an odd mix of genuine concern, tired old rhetoric, and confusing twists. There's more understanding and sympathy for opposing viewpoints than one normally sees from a Fundamentalist, but then it almost can't help but fall back on the expected stereotypes and bad arguments that you pretty much have to expect.
http://www.wikihow.com/Persuade-an-Atheist-to-Become-Christian
There are a few jarring inconsistencies where, if I were to be charitable, I have to think some text editing went awry, like this:
If the first sentence had been in a list clearly labeled "Things not to do", with the second sentence being the reason not to do it, it makes sense. Otherwise it's a glaring self-contradiction, and leaves me wondering what the author really meant, or if he/she is so conflicted that contradictions like the above can leak out unnoticed.
Another similarly odd bit is below, where it sounds like the author acknowledges the "God of the gaps" argument, but makes it sound as if he/she thinks it's a good thing, that you'll impress people by filling in the gaps in knowledge and understanding with "God did it!".
Bits like this next section are refreshing, since I've known many fundies to take the approach (my own right-wing sister included) that "deep down" there really aren't any atheists, just people who are angry with, or "rebelling" against, the God they say they don't believe in. (There's another one of those weird twists that could be bad editing, however. I'm pretty sure the word "intrigue" below was really meant to be, or would have to have been meant to be, if there's any sense to be made of the text, something like "incense" or "annoy".)
djean111
(14,255 posts)No point.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I wonder if the writer can cite any instance in which this "how-to" advice has actually worked to convert an atheist.
unblock
(52,196 posts)That be slow homicide, but homicide just the same.
unblock
(52,196 posts)it's just a known technique for making someone's mind more malleable.
a favorite of cults and slimy businessmen.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Beyond that, I didn't find much of value here. Having already considered and rejected the ideas proposed, this wasn't very interesting to me.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)This one is equally objectionable:
How to Persuade a Christian to Become Atheist
http://www.wikihow.com/Persuade-a-Christian-to-Become-Atheist
rug
(82,333 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)But I haven't found much on wikihow that has been of much value.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Because atheists are required to convert believers per the rules in our holy book.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)She's intensely opposed to anyone trying to change anyone else's mind - but that's exactly what politics and consensus-building are about.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)she must not like feminists.
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edgineered
(2,101 posts)Discussions with fundies are a waste of time.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The pictures are really creepy - the scary kind of creepy. Reminds me of a dummy's guide to safely taming an atheist:
2. Offer the beast a beer or Scooby Snack with an open palm, be mindful of your fingers!
3. Gaze at the atheist lovingly, blink slowly so he/she knows you are relaxed and comfortable in their presence.
4. Never ever stand too close to or directly behind an atheist, their claws and hooves are sharp and can kill a christian in seconds.
This guide is just as insulting to christians:
From the tips section :
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)That's a big chunk of believers that accept it (at least doctrinally) as true.
Silent3
(15,204 posts)There's probably a separate article on how to convert Catholics to Christianity.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Ignorance must really be bliss, I'm almost jealous.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Shocker!