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(82,333 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:11 PM Oct 2014

Marry-go-round: Which religious officials in Oklahoma may officiate at gay weddings depends largely

Which religious leaders in Oklahoma may officiate at gay weddings depends largely upon faith beliefs and denominational structure, clergy say.

by Carla Hinton
Published: October 11, 2014

The Rev. Trina Bose North would like to, but her denomination says she can’t.

However, the Rev. Timothy Blodgett received his denomination’s green light to do so just a few months ago.

And the Rev. Nick Garland isn’t considering it at all.

The issue is same-sex marriage.

http://newsok.com/marry-go-round-which-religious-officials-in-oklahoma-may-officiate-at-gay-weddings-depends-largely-upon-denominational-structure/article/5352338

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Marry-go-round: Which religious officials in Oklahoma may officiate at gay weddings depends largely (Original Post) rug Oct 2014 OP
If same sex couples have difficulty finding a clergy person of their faith LiberalFighter Oct 2014 #1
There is nothing in the article to suggest that couples are having cbayer Oct 2014 #2
The fact that there are clergies that won't perform the ceremony indicates a reduction. LiberalFighter Oct 2014 #3
Indicates a reduction of what? cbayer Oct 2014 #4
Do you understand there are possibly some denominations that won't allow marriage? LiberalFighter Oct 2014 #5
Yes, I do understand that. cbayer Oct 2014 #7
I agree with that. LiberalFighter Oct 2014 #8
In general, I think we have much more to celebrate at this point than cbayer Oct 2014 #9
UCC or UU ministers don't have a problem with gay marriage. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2014 #6

LiberalFighter

(50,789 posts)
1. If same sex couples have difficulty finding a clergy person of their faith
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:29 PM
Oct 2014

willing to perform the ceremony then they should ask themselves why they should continue being a member of the congregation.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. There is nothing in the article to suggest that couples are having
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:39 AM
Oct 2014

trouble finding clergy, in fact quite the opposite.

And, the reasons why people stay are expressed clearly in the article.

No sure what it is you are responding to here.

LiberalFighter

(50,789 posts)
3. The fact that there are clergies that won't perform the ceremony indicates a reduction.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 05:15 PM
Oct 2014

And don't forget that depending on the faith a couple may not find someone willing to perform. And they would have two alternatives if they are willing. Either a clergy person of a different faith that is willing to perform for a couple of a different faith. Or a civil ceremony.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. Indicates a reduction of what?
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 05:25 PM
Oct 2014

There are more and more ministers that are performing these ceremonies, but there are some that will never do it.

Again, the article does not bring up objections by couples at all. There are plenty of options.

Overall, things are looking very positive, but expecting 100% buy in is setting an unattainable bar.

LiberalFighter

(50,789 posts)
5. Do you understand there are possibly some denominations that won't allow marriage?
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:11 PM
Oct 2014

And if a couple's preference is having a religious ceremony their choices will be greatly reduced?

Many denominations are very strict about marrying couples outside their denomination.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. Yes, I do understand that.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:30 PM
Oct 2014

I think your challenge is better aimed at the clergy within those denominations than the members.

The choices are expanding both for clergy and for individuals. I do thing that those denominations that do not adapt will see an exodus and that they will be marginalized.

In the meantime, the numbers of denominations that are evolving to endorse same sex marriages are growing.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. In general, I think we have much more to celebrate at this point than
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 04:39 PM
Oct 2014

to criticize.

There is no way we are going to go backwards at this point, and I feel like the victory is ours.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
6. UCC or UU ministers don't have a problem with gay marriage.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:16 PM
Oct 2014

The biggest UU congregation in the United States is in Tulsa.

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