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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 10:47 AM Oct 2014

Gay Rights Groups describe Catholic synod vote as 'disappointing'

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1019/653333-synod/

Francis De Bernardo, Executive Director of New Ways Ministry, a Catholic gay rights group in the United States, said it was "very disappointing that the synod's final report did not retain the gracious welcome to lesbian and gay people that the draft of the report included".

"Instead, the bishops have taken a narrow view of pastoral care by defining it simply as opposition to marriage for same-gender couples," he said.

The final version stressed that "there is no foundation whatsoever" to compare homosexual marriage to heterosexual marriage, calling heterosexual marriage "God's plan for matrimony and the family".


I guess someone needs to just tell those groups who are fighting for human rights to just be optimistic! Progress has been made! It's a seismic shift! Or at least, that's what I've been told.
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Gay Rights Groups describe Catholic synod vote as 'disappointing' (Original Post) trotsky Oct 2014 OP
Heartbreaking but not unexpected. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #1
He did start with that first draft shenmue Oct 2014 #2
Did he? trotsky Oct 2014 #3
To a certain extent theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #7
Ugh, maybe someone could summarize. trotsky Oct 2014 #8
What can you expect from a pig but a grunt? Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #4
I sure didn't. trotsky Oct 2014 #5
I'd describe your reaction to the vote as gleeful. rug Oct 2014 #6

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. Did he?
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 11:32 AM
Oct 2014

Did the pope actually compose that first draft?

And hopefully you can understand some cynicism here - it's a brilliant PR move if you put forth a more "welcoming" statement (which still denies LGBTQers equality) knowing it's going to get shot down anyway.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
7. To a certain extent
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 03:16 PM
Oct 2014

It seems to be a mind-numbing process coordinated between the bishops and the Pope and in this case, appears to have been started during the time of Benedict. If you can get through this without your brain melting out each ear, you might find the answer.

http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/full-text-of-cardinal-baldisseri-s-opening-report-for-the-synod

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
8. Ugh, maybe someone could summarize.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 04:25 PM
Oct 2014

Don't care to slog through that mess. Someone else made a claim; I'm going to let them prove it.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
4. What can you expect from a pig but a grunt?
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 11:34 AM
Oct 2014

Yes, it's disappointing but, given who was involved, should we really have expected anything better?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. I sure didn't.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 11:38 AM
Oct 2014

But I get the feeling from some here on DU that if we aren't praising this as some kind of incredible breakthrough and wonderful development, that we are the problem and not the bigots who run the RCC.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
6. I'd describe your reaction to the vote as gleeful.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 12:35 PM
Oct 2014

Oops, forgot the exclamation points. You like them.

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