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Related: About this forumBills aim to assure Ohio students’ religious expression at school
By Jim Siegel
The Columbus Dispatch Tuesday December 2, 2014 7:08 AM
A pair of bills designed to ensure that students have freedom to express religious views while in school passed a House committee yesterday despite concerns by Democrats that they accomplish little but could have unintended consequences.
Current law already prohibits a school district from adopting a policy that promotes religion or prevents a student from expressing religious beliefs though districts can limit that to noninstructional periods, such as lunch. Current law also allows a local district to provide for a moment of silence each school day for prayer or meditation.
House Bill 303 would permit religious expression before, during and after school hours in the same manner and to the same extent that a student is permitted to engage in secular activities or expression during corresponding times.
Schools also would be required to allow students, without penalty, to utilize religion in their homework or other assignments.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/12/02/bills-aim-to-ensure-rights-of-students-on-religion.html
The relevant sections of Bill 303:
Sec. 3320.01. Sections 3320.01, 3320.02, and 3320.03 of the Revised Code shall be collectively known as the "Ohio Student Religious Liberties Act of 2013."
As used in sections 3320.01 to 3320.03 of the Revised Code, "religious expression" includes any of the following:
(A) Prayer;
(B) Religious gatherings, including but not limited to prayer groups, religious clubs, "see you at the pole" gatherings, or other religious gatherings;
(C) Distribution of written materials or literature of a religious nature.
(D) Any other activity of a religious nature, including wearing symbolic clothing or expression of a religious viewpoint, provided that the activity is not obscene, vulgar, offensively lewd, or indecent.
Sec. 3320.02. Notwithstanding section 3313.601 of the Revised Code, a student enrolled in a public school may engage in religious expression before, during, and after school hours in the same manner and to the same extent that a student is permitted to engage in secular activities or expression during corresponding times.
Sec. 3320.03. No school district board of education, governing authority of a community school established under Chapter 3314. of the Revised Code, or governing body of a STEM school established under Chapter 3326. of the Revised Code, or board of trustees of a college-preparatory boarding school established under Chapter 3328. of the Revised Code shall prohibit a student from engaging in religious expression in the completion of homework, artwork, or other written or oral assignments. Assignment grades and scores shall be calculated using ordinary academic standards of substance and relevance, including any legitimate pedagogical concerns, and shall not penalize or reward a student based on the religious content of a student's work.
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=130_HB_303
The relevant sections of Bill 304:
(1) Prayer;
(2) Religious gatherings, including but not limited to prayer groups, religious clubs, "see you at the pole" gatherings, or other religious gatherings;
(3) Distribution of written materials or literature of a religious nature;
(4) Any other activity of a religious nature, including wearing symbolic clothing or expression of a religious viewpoint, provided that the activity is not obscene, vulgar, offensively lewd, or indecent.
(B) A school district, community school established under Chapter 3314., STEM school established under Chapter 3326., or a college-preparatory boarding school established under Chapter 3328. of the Revised Code shall give the same access to school facilities to students who wish to conduct a meeting for the purpose of engaging in religious expression as is given to secular student groups, without regard to the content of a student's or group's expression.
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=130_HB_304
ffr
(22,669 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)I suspect they will rethink this after a few religions they don't like start popping up.
Did they forget about adolescents and how they like to explore nontraditional things?
rug
(82,333 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)phil89
(1,043 posts)christianity then. Bloody torture and human sacrifice is pretty vulgar, as is thinking one benefits from it.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Are you actually calling someone's thoughts vulgar?
That's kind of scary.
niyad
(113,275 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)If there's a naked woman on it, they'll try to ban it.
Pentacles should be ok. It's their reaction to tentacles that will be interesting.
niyad
(113,275 posts)a keyboard.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)Beheadings occur for less.
Vive le Monstre des Spaghettis!
cbayer
(146,218 posts)But I think you make a good point. Will they allow kids to worship the FSM?
ffr
(22,669 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)TlalocW
(15,381 posts)I know there are a few outliers in both directions - teachers who ban any religious expression and teachers/students who look at the other people trapped in the same building as a captive audience to preach to, but for the most part, none of what they're proposing sounds like it's different from what is law now.
So that makes me think that the people proposing this are made up of two sub-groups
1. Stupid lawmakers who don't know this is the law already and think this will help bring back religion (Christianity) to schools.
2. Conniving lawmakers who are pushing this so they can point to how they're trying to bring back religion (Christianity) to schools without actually doing so.
TlalocW