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Some atheists want to celebrate difference, others want to join the political arena. Time for an Atheist Party?
Saturday, Dec 6, 2014 02:00 PM EST
Richard Cimino and Christopher Smith
There was a much larger presence of young adults and women at the rally than in 2002; the founding of the Secular Student Alliance and its rapid growth in colleges and high schools (doubling since 2009 from 143 campuses to 350) may be a factor in that change. Much of the success of the rally can be credited to the greater coordination and unity between the various secularist groups, ranging from such veterans as the American Atheists and the Freedom from Religion Foundation to the influential Center for Inquiry (CFI), Humanistic Judaism, and the well-funded Richard Dawkins Foundation.
In 2002 the fractious tendency of secularist groups was more evident, with several groups declining to participate. In 2012 even the more moderate American Humanist Association (AHA) took an active part in the rally; as AHA spokeswoman Maggie Ardiente told us in an interview, Atheism is the first step on the path to a more positive kind of humanism. The event featured the old standard-bearers of freethought; magician and veteran skeptic James Randi resembled a walking social type of the village atheist as he jabbed his cane toward the sky and railed against the misogynistic, genocidal, sexist, racist, militaristic, and homophobic deity of the Old Testament. But the rally also showed how the new atheism and its professionalized, if polemical, style has raised secularisms status in the worlds of entertainment and popular culture, a subject we will address in the next chapter. The rallys performers, such as singer and comedian Tim Minchin, the rock group Bad Religion, comedian Eddie Izzard, and Adam Savage of the Mythbusters TV show, blended hip and edgy humor and artistic sensibility in their atheist repertoires. These personalities and increasing numbers of other performers are prominent in the entertainment world while also finding a niche market among secularists, along with a host of bloggers with large followings.
The prominent role of celebrities and the calls for reason and coming out of the closet to claim a place in American society at the event were joined seamlessly with irreverent attacks on religion. The tension, if not conflict, between the secularists strategies of debunking religion and calling for acceptance in a largely religious, if pluralistic, society was as apparent in 2012 as it was in 2002. This tension between celebrating and suppressing difference from a majority or norm is an issue with which many identity movements struggle (Bernstein 1997). Highlighting the difference from a religious majority can strengthen unity internally both positively (e.g., celebrating an intellectual superiority) and negatively (e.g., emphasizing the oppressiveness of religion). Highlighting similarities with a majority may broaden or extend a movement but may also decrease intensity within it. This question of how much attention to devote to internal issues, such as strengthening unity and increasing membership, versus reaching out and appealing or collaborating with other groups to achieve certain ends, is another issue that all movements have to grapple with and negotiate.
Moreover, agreeing that a problem exists and needs to be addressed, and motivating people to do so, is not to agree on what should be done or how to go about doing it. The issue of gender relations is a recent example in which secularists split into factions over political concerns. A secularist blogger issued a call for a third wave of atheism that would unite the politics of the left with a concern that women participants would be free of sexual harassment. She had in mind reports that women had been plagued with sexual harassment at atheist events, but the declaration ignited a bitter split whereby the leaders of the new movement, known as Atheism+, in effect excommunicated or disowned dissenters from its platform (McGrath 2012). This example highlights how moving from the abstract to the concrete can divide individuals within a particular group (some secularists have dismissed sexual harassment within the movement as a nonissue), which perhaps helps explain why secularists place so much emphasis on where they do agree. Also, until a constituency of like-minded people come together and decide to act, practical matters regarding strategies and goals are not really an issue. Focusing on broad areas of agreement is a first initial step in establishing a base, whereas getting too specific can turn subgroups against one another.
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/06/is_mocking_religion_enough_harris_dawkins_and_the_future_of_atheistsecular_politics/
The Secular Party of America changed its name from the National Atheist Party last year.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/07/17/national-atheist-party-changes-its-name-to-secular-party-of-america/
http://secularpartyofamerica.tumblr.com/
pinto
(106,886 posts)Simultaneously.
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)What happened to the second one? Oh, is that the New Atheism I've read about? Did we bury the first one?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)for a third wave.
I think it's more about evolution than burial and birth.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I think it is used because it is somehow more inclusive and less provocative, but there are religious people who are secularists.
At any rate, I would love to see more groups of non-religious people evolve into socially active organizations and become increasingly inclusive.
There is a lot of concern about the role that religious groups play in supplying a social safety net both in the US and elsewhere. Some of that concern is well placed.
The more non-religious groups that start to fill in the gaps and even coordinate their efforts with religious groups, the better.
Jim__
(14,063 posts)It reeks of elitism.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That's a good one..
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-Emo Philips