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unrepentant progress

(611 posts)
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:22 PM Dec 2014

COEXIST’s Bonehead Bumper-Sticker Politics

You think you're sending a hippie dippy message of peace, love, and understanding but you're just throwing down your gang signs.


But the Coexist bumper sticker mentality, shockingly, isn’t an antidote at all. It’s not even a harmless or naïve. It’s a symptom of a much larger phenomenon, one that makes it hard for Americans to talk seriously about religious conflict and history. That phenomenon is not limited to peaceniks with spiritual aspirations. It’s just as common among hardline atheists as it is in squishy interfaith circles. It is, essentially, the insistence on perceiving religious conflict as the clash of big, abstract beliefs, which people can choose to set aside.

In the mindset of the Coexist camp, those abstract beliefs have become twisted things, wrapped up with hate. If people could only renounce their hateful ideas, they could learn to love one another. “Why,” the implicit question here goes, “can’t we all just get along?”

In the view of certain atheists, those damaging beliefs have seized people’s minds. As I’ve written before, there’s a tendency among some atheists to think of religion as a kind of virus, or a dangerous philosophical infection—in other words, as an idea that hijacks minds. In this perspective, the question of religious violence is something like “Why can’t people free their minds from religion, and learn to get along?”

The problem, of course, is that politicized ideas—religious and otherwise—are entangled with material problems. The conditions of history, colonialism, poverty, and geography have left people with plenty of reasons to find it difficult to coexist. None of those reasons, at their core, have much to do with what is or is not written in a religious text, or whether a Jewish star can be made to look pretty next to a Muslim crescent on a bumper sticker.

Full post: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/21/coexist-s-bonehead-bumper-sticker-politics.html


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COEXIST’s Bonehead Bumper-Sticker Politics (Original Post) unrepentant progress Dec 2014 OP
Haven't seen the word "peaceniks" in a looooong time. okasha Dec 2014 #1
Oh, come on-- I got maybe halfway through... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #2
Not sure why a bumpersticker asking all religions to Coexist brings out such rage in this author.... peacebird Dec 2014 #3
The author seems to be unaware that the sticker okasha Dec 2014 #4
I loved the whirrled peas LiberalArkie Dec 2014 #7
I'd like those minutes back, please. silverweb Dec 2014 #5
The author is a religious apologist. Cartoonist Dec 2014 #6

okasha

(11,573 posts)
1. Haven't seen the word "peaceniks" in a looooong time.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:37 PM
Dec 2014

Now, as then it seems to be used as a slur by warmongers. The fact that it's used in ideological rather than physical conflict doesn't make it less hateful. Squelching ideas --isn't a good idea.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Oh, come on-- I got maybe halfway through...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:43 PM
Dec 2014

this thing and his main point seems to be that a bumper sticker won't bring that whirrled peas we all want.

Of course it won't! It doesn't take a pompous article to prove that.

But it is a statement that many people want to make, and it's reasonable place to make it.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
3. Not sure why a bumpersticker asking all religions to Coexist brings out such rage in this author....
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:51 PM
Dec 2014

It seems a reasonable idea to me.....

okasha

(11,573 posts)
4. The author seems to be unaware that the sticker
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:51 PM
Dec 2014

is intended for an American audience. We could use some "coexistence" right now-- and the dominos falling to equal marriage seems to indicate we just might be creating a bit of it.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
5. I'd like those minutes back, please.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:28 PM
Dec 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]What a complete waste of time and bandwidth.



Cartoonist

(7,314 posts)
6. The author is a religious apologist.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:30 PM
Dec 2014

Essentially, he is saying that the problems of the world are economic and geographic, and that religion has nothing to do with it. I see that attitude here on DU as well. While I agree that economics, water rights, population expansion, and a whole host of other problems are things that need resolution, it is the religious factor that often rears its ugly head to defeat any compromise or peaceful solution. Is it any wonder that atheists see religion as a kind of virus, or a dangerous philosophical infection—in other words, as an idea that hijacks minds?

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