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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Fri May 1, 2015, 12:49 PM May 2015

No, Climate Change Deniers Aren’t Modern Day Galileos

http://religiondispatches.org/no-climate-change-deniers-arent-modern-day-galileos/

BY ANDREW AGHAPOUR AND MICHAEL SCHULSON APRIL 30, 2015

Let’s say you’re a prominent climate change denier. And then Pope Francis comes along and announces that climate change is going to be a major item on his agenda for the coming months. What do you do?

Do you:

(A) Hold a press conference in Rome and tell the Church it has no business meddling in science;

(B) Accuse Pope Francis of being misled by charlatan UN experts; or

(C) Liken climate-deniers to Galileo, as part of a long line of truth-tellers who have been marginalized by the moralizing authority of the Catholic Church.

The answer is (D) All of the above.

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No, Climate Change Deniers Aren’t Modern Day Galileos (Original Post) cbayer May 2015 OP
The science has moved on. Buzz Clik May 2015 #1
I hope you are right, but I'd feel better if everyone was onboard this train. cbayer May 2015 #2
These things take time, and even then true consensus is difficult Buzz Clik May 2015 #4
I don't disagree, but I think this may be more critical than the periodic table. cbayer May 2015 #7
The science may have moved on Leontius May 2015 #5
Correct. The solution will be highly political Buzz Clik May 2015 #6
Well see, here's your problem, CB. trotsky May 2015 #3
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
4. These things take time, and even then true consensus is difficult
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:29 PM
May 2015

Mendeleev's periodic table in 1871 was controversial at the time, and it took decades of debate and tuning to bring it into focus.

Climate change is a lot more difficult to pin down.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. I don't disagree, but I think this may be more critical than the periodic table.
Fri May 1, 2015, 05:51 PM
May 2015

There is an urgency here and anyone who drags their feet is a threat.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
5. The science may have moved on
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:50 PM
May 2015

but many of the people who will deal with have not and they hold the reins of power.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. Well see, here's your problem, CB.
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:16 PM
May 2015

You have previously declared that unless one can PROVE someone else is wrong, one cannot even claim they are.

With climate change, while we have plentiful evidence it is occurring, we cannot PROVE it is entirely or even mostly human-caused, which is where the deniers have staked out their position. Oh we also have lots of evidence it's human-caused - plenty to convince most rational people - but not enough to PROVE it, at least not to the standards that you have decreed.

Kinda sucks when the deniers are enabled by that.

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