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rug

(82,333 posts)
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 10:49 AM Sep 2015

Muslims threaten Europe’s Christian identity, Hungary’s leader says

By Rick Noack
September 3

Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, has made nationalistic and controversial statements in the past. But with his country emerging as a main gateway for refugees trying to reach richer European nations, his words suddenly carry much heavier weight.

On Thursday, Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper published an op-ed by Orban in which he claimed that he was defending European Christianity against a Muslim influx by stopping thousands of refugees from leaving Hungary. “Everything which is now taking place before our eyes threatens to have explosive consequences for the whole of Europe,” he wrote in the op-ed. "We must acknowledge that the European Union’s misguided immigration policy is responsible for this situation."

"We shouldn’t forget that the people who are coming here grew up in a different religion and represent a completely different culture. Most are not Christian, but Muslim.... That is an important question, because Europe and European culture have Christian roots," he wrote.

It is ironic that the man who wants to save Europe's Christian identity used to have no Christian identity himself. "Once an atheist, he now upholds religion as the nation’s backbone," Hungary expert Charles Gati observed in an op-ed last year. Hungary used to belong the Soviet bloc before the fall of the Berlin Wall: Its communist regime tried to restrict all religious tendencies and to create an atheistic society. So, like many of his countrymen, Orban was educated as an atheist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/09/03/muslims-threaten-europes-christian-identity-hungarys-leader-says/

Disturbing videos at link.

More on this fascist:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-viktor-orbans-victory-means-for-hungary-and-the-west/2014/04/07/a4ab440c-bb87-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html

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Muslims threaten Europe’s Christian identity, Hungary’s leader says (Original Post) rug Sep 2015 OP
Racist...fascist...bigot...the Hungarian people are voting against the hate with their compassion, the fascists Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #1
This is exctly what Trump is proposing. rug Sep 2015 #2
The Hungarian people put Fidesz in power Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #3
Times change. People can vote with their hearts in between elections, can't they? And are! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #4
sure they *could* there just is no evidence that they *have* Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #7
"The American people" put Bush in power in 2000. rug Sep 2015 #5
To be perfectly fair Lordquinton Sep 2015 #9
To be perfectly fair rug Sep 2015 #10
Ooh, snappy come back Lordquinton Sep 2015 #15
All your post was worth. rug Sep 2015 #16
Lol. I always find it funny when a dolt is simply unable to grasp the concept cleanhippie Sep 2015 #11
See #10. rug Sep 2015 #12
Called it! cleanhippie Sep 2015 #13
Yours are on full display. rug Sep 2015 #14
Aaaand I have a stalker! cleanhippie Sep 2015 #17
Odd that you're creeping around making indirect remarks about me to others. rug Sep 2015 #18
That seems to be going around Lordquinton Sep 2015 #19
I wonder if restraining orders should be on the menu? cleanhippie Sep 2015 #20
Fortunately here it amounts to little more than an extra scroll Lordquinton Sep 2015 #21
Or it's forced into exile while it contemplates it's transgressions. cleanhippie Sep 2015 #22
I think you're both mistaking stalking with getting your asses handed to you. rug Sep 2015 #23
he thinks it's 1686 again, don't he? MisterP Sep 2015 #6
The Ottomans must not enter Buda! rug Sep 2015 #8

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Racist...fascist...bigot...the Hungarian people are voting against the hate with their compassion, the fascists
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:06 AM
Sep 2015

of the world need to be drowned with the milk of human kindness...and it remarkably seems to be happening on the highways of a country called Hungary.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. sure they *could* there just is no evidence that they *have*
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:28 PM
Sep 2015

there has been no grassroots opposition to Hungary's hard line on the refugee crisis, at least not in any of the reports I've seen. And the fascist government is busy sealing its border with Serbia, preparing even more draconian measures to handle the waves of desperate people, all with the blessing of the Hungarian legislature.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
5. "The American people" put Bush in power in 2000.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:37 AM
Sep 2015

Your broad brush doesn't conceal the control of elections by capitalists.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
11. Lol. I always find it funny when a dolt is simply unable to grasp the concept
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:39 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:11 PM - Edit history (1)

yet considers them self to be the smartest guy in the room.




But what do you expect from such a dolt?

I'm sure one will be along shortly to tell us both how wrong we are with some un-funny, low-wit retort. It really is quite sad.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
18. Odd that you're creeping around making indirect remarks about me to others.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:17 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:38 PM - Edit history (2)

Now, I wouldn't call that stalking, I'd call it fucked up.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
20. I wonder if restraining orders should be on the menu?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:45 AM
Sep 2015

When a dolt stalks you, it's funny for a while, then it just becomes downright pathetic and sad.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
21. Fortunately here it amounts to little more than an extra scroll
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 06:55 PM
Sep 2015

Just more noise. You can attempt to tune it to get a good signal, but it never happens. Sometimes you tune it too much and it disappears for months at a time!

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
22. Or it's forced into exile while it contemplates it's transgressions.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 06:58 PM
Sep 2015

Which seems to only enrage the dolts even more!

It's a vicious cycle. They should definitely seek professional help!

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
23. I think you're both mistaking stalking with getting your asses handed to you.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:30 PM
Sep 2015

Virtually of course.

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