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Related: About this forumJay Rayner: Jay is for ‘Jewish’ despite an atheist upbringing
Jay Rayner speaks to Francine Wolfisz about his newly republished novel, his upbringing by atheist parents and his love for his mother Claires chicken soup
Despite being brought up by atheist parents both of whom were born Jewish Jay Rayner embraces fun Jewish culture Photocredit Bella West)
September 17, 2015
At first glance, the title of Jay Rayners second novel is something of an enigma. Its called Day Of Atonement and yet the well-known author and food critic describes himself as entirely Godless and plans to spend this years High Holy Day meeting his deadlines for Observer Food Monthly. Not exactly what one would call observing Yom Kippur.
And yet for all his atheist leanings, The One Show broadcaster is keen to stress the book is a celebration of all things culturally Jewish and the community he embraced during his teenage years growing up in north London.
As he tells me: You could say I am quite rabid in asserting my cultural Jewishness, without having any religiosity whatsoever.
Day Of Atonement, which was nominated for the prestigious Jewish Quarterly Prize for Fiction when it was first published in 1998, is indeed so Jewishy in its references to chicken schmaltz, pickles and Yiddishkeit, that Jays own mother, the late, well-known agony aunt Claire Rayner, was taken aback by her first reading.
http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/jay-rayner-jay-is-for-jewish-despite-an-atheist-upbringing/
Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)Good for him.
rug
(82,333 posts)Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)We're both atheists who reject God but love parties. God is still the loser here, and reality the winner.
rug
(82,333 posts)So you think Jewishness and Catholicity are race qualifiers? Looks like you and the moustache agree.
rug
(82,333 posts)I doubt you even read the interview.
Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)DNA has nothing to do with religious belief. What was your point except to climb in bed with Adolf?
As for the OP, the guy likes the trappings of religion but rejects the idea of a God. I'm cool with that.
rug
(82,333 posts)DNA shows ethnic and geographic origin, which is part of the Jewish cultural identity. An identity he speaks of independent of belief. You cannot say the same about being Catholic - or Methodist.
I couldn't climb into bed with Adolf if I wanted to since it seems you're in the way.
If you think he's talking about "the trappings of religion", yo shold read it again, slowly.
Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)And alerting won't work. You made the connection between race and religion. You own it.
rug
(82,333 posts)You're the one who invoked race. And Hitler. Excuse me, you said "Adolf".
Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)If you use voice recognition software, then it came out of your mouth.
For posterity:
 rug
4. Really? Will a DNA anlysis show that?
rug
(82,333 posts)Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)And that's good enough for me.
rug
(82,333 posts)Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)I love Ave Maria by Schubert. We're both still atheists.
rug
(82,333 posts)Great hymn though.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I see
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"Looks like you and the moustache agree."
Really? It's come to the point where posters call other members Hitler.
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(19,705 posts)How expected from that one.
rug
(82,333 posts)Other than, that, your post is entirely predictable.