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rug

(82,333 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:30 PM Sep 2015

Jay Rayner: Jay is for ‘Jewish’ despite an atheist upbringing

Jay Rayner speaks to Francine Wolfisz about his newly republished novel, his upbringing by atheist parents and his love for his mother Claire’s chicken soup



Despite being brought up by atheist parents – both of whom were born Jewish – Jay Rayner embraces fun Jewish culture Photocredit Bella West)

September 17, 2015

At first glance, the title of Jay Rayner’s second novel is something of an enigma. It’s called Day Of Atonement and yet the well-known author and food critic describes himself as “entirely Godless” and plans to spend this year’s High Holy Day meeting his deadlines for Observer Food Monthly. Not exactly what one would call “observing” Yom Kippur.

And yet for all his atheist leanings, The One Show broadcaster is keen to stress the book is a celebration of all things culturally Jewish and the community he embraced during his teenage years growing up in north London.

As he tells me: “You could say I am quite rabid in asserting my cultural Jewishness, without having any religiosity whatsoever.”

Day Of Atonement, which was nominated for the prestigious Jewish Quarterly Prize for Fiction when it was first published in 1998, is indeed so Jewishy in its references to chicken schmaltz, pickles and Yiddishkeit, that Jay’s own mother, the late, well-known agony aunt Claire Rayner, was taken aback by her first reading.



http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/jay-rayner-jay-is-for-jewish-despite-an-atheist-upbringing/

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Jay Rayner: Jay is for ‘Jewish’ despite an atheist upbringing (Original Post) rug Sep 2015 OP
So he's an atheist Cartoonist Sep 2015 #1
He's also Jewish. rug Sep 2015 #2
And I'm a Catholic. Cartoonist Sep 2015 #3
Really? Will a DNA anlysis show that? rug Sep 2015 #4
I see Cartoonist Sep 2015 #5
I don't belive in biological "race". Do you? rug Sep 2015 #6
You wrote it Cartoonist Sep 2015 #7
No, it is you who see race where there is none. rug Sep 2015 #8
You can't walk this BS back Cartoonist Sep 2015 #10
I don't need to. It didn't come out of my ass. rug Sep 2015 #12
It came from your keyboard Cartoonist Sep 2015 #13
Do you actually think "race" can be determined by DNA? rug Sep 2015 #16
You think religion can? Cartoonist Sep 2015 #17
That is why I qestioned you in the first place. He sees Judaism as much, much more than a religion. rug Sep 2015 #18
He still rejects God. Cartoonist Sep 2015 #19
He's also Jewish. rug Sep 2015 #20
And I'm a Catholic. Cartoonist Sep 2015 #21
Loving Ave Maria does not make you Catholic,. rug Sep 2015 #22
FYI Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #9
Thank you. nt Cartoonist Sep 2015 #11
Looks like someone got all butthurt. cleanhippie Sep 2015 #14
Looks like someone didn't read #7. rug Sep 2015 #15

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
3. And I'm a Catholic.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:54 PM
Sep 2015

We're both atheists who reject God but love parties. God is still the loser here, and reality the winner.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
5. I see
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:08 PM
Sep 2015

So you think Jewishness and Catholicity are race qualifiers? Looks like you and the moustache agree.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
7. You wrote it
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:16 PM
Sep 2015

DNA has nothing to do with religious belief. What was your point except to climb in bed with Adolf?

As for the OP, the guy likes the trappings of religion but rejects the idea of a God. I'm cool with that.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. No, it is you who see race where there is none.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:24 PM
Sep 2015

DNA shows ethnic and geographic origin, which is part of the Jewish cultural identity. An identity he speaks of independent of belief. You cannot say the same about being Catholic - or Methodist.

I couldn't climb into bed with Adolf if I wanted to since it seems you're in the way.

If you think he's talking about "the trappings of religion", yo shold read it again, slowly.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
10. You can't walk this BS back
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:38 PM
Sep 2015

And alerting won't work. You made the connection between race and religion. You own it.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
12. I don't need to. It didn't come out of my ass.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:42 PM
Sep 2015

You're the one who invoked race. And Hitler. Excuse me, you said "Adolf".

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
13. It came from your keyboard
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:49 PM
Sep 2015

If you use voice recognition software, then it came out of your mouth.

For posterity:

 rug
4. Really? Will a DNA anlysis show that?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
18. That is why I qestioned you in the first place. He sees Judaism as much, much more than a religion.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:03 PM
Sep 2015
 

Duckhunter935

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9. FYI
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:32 PM
Sep 2015
On Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I see
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"Looks like you and the moustache agree."

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