Are religions biologically based and natural or supernaturally based?

[Greatest I am]

Are religions biologically based and natural or supernaturally based?

All religions are manmade and all God’s are projections of man’s desires for supremacy and to be the Alpha male of the human race. Survival of the fittest and our desire to be the fittest human is what drives us and keeps mankind progressing and evolving.

I offer the following to prove my case.

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http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-father-complex.htm

This last shows the Gnostic Christian understanding of seeking the ideal human and Jesus archetype that we call Jesus the good.

The choice people have is to believe that religions are ultimately products of a supernatural God who dictates policy to humans, who then pen them into holy books, and we have many Gods who are of this ilk, or to recognize that all these Gods are products of man’s imagination.

Proof for manmade Gods is obvious. Men have created the documentation of what they think.

Proof for a supernatural God has yet to be shown other than humans who say they wrote what was dictated by a God. Some do not see that as proof.

I think the proof we have of God’s being manmade is that no real supernatural God has ever bothered to correct any of the contradicting information about him, her or it. No God has ever corrected us.

Do you think Gods are manmade or do you believe in a supernatural God?

Why do you think that way?

Regards
DL

[rug]

1. Is Gnosticism human made?

[Greatest I am]

8. Yes.

Thanks for answering a question with a question. It really tells me what you think.

Regards
DL

[rug]

12. It is much better to understand than to be understood.

[Greatest I am]

14. Understand

that there are way too many idiots in the world.

Is that clear enough for you to understand?

No answer or question required or will be answered.

Regards
DL

[rug]

16. That was made clear five days ago.

[Fumesucker]

2. Yes

[Greatest I am]

9. Intelligent. Not.

[msongs]

3. neither, they are schemes made up by MEN for purposes of power, control, and wealth acquisition.

perhaps once ages ago there were attempts to express understanding of natural forces in the face of ignorance, but once the first MAN figured out he could control others for his own benefit, natural understanding went out the figurative window.

[Igel]

5. And yet some of the earliest totems

and probably earliest religious beliefs were matriarchy-affirming and women-centered.

Odd that men would make up and impose religions over a matriarchal civilization to continue what I guess would have to be called their "continued marginalization and oppression through limits on their access to power."

I guess we could hypothesize that all matriarchal religions were, like women today, nurturing, kind, and compassionate. That, however, would be stereotypical and far into sexist territory because not all women were like that. Even the Quechua goddess Pachamama was reformed under Catholic and modern thought from a fairly bloodthirsty tyrant to a gentle, much more compassionate deity (sorry for the non-PCism in bowing to the ugly truth).

[Greatest I am]

11. Goddesses ruled up to

the Bronze age and were nurturing, kind, and compassionate.

After men could create weapons strong enough to war against other tribes is when the war God and fortified cities began to become the order of the day.

We might have to remain on war footings until women regain the rule and Goddess worship returns.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

10. That is what I meand with biologically based.

[Mnemosyne]

4. Man created God in his own image. For power and greed... nt

[Greatest I am]

15. Agreed

[Igel]

6. Limited set of hypotheses.

Better set:
all religion is from biology (i.e., DNA)

predisposition to religion is biological but religion itself comes from purely human sources

one or some religions are supernatural, some are formed in accordance with a natural predisposition

all religions are supernatural

the above set, but instead of "biology" read "psychology", leaving open the idea that understanding of natural causes can affect psychology--biological but not really genetic.


I find interesting the following observation in the psych literature. (It's in the psych literature which, of course, means there's a 90% chance at p = 0.05 that it cannot be replicated.)

If you take people and ask them to evaluate their affinity for a religion or set of doctrines you get a nice spread. If you evaluate their brand loyalty, you notice a negative correlation. Increased brand loyalty (we're talking commercial, trademarked brands--Dawn, Doritos, Heinz) --> reduced doctrinal commitment. If you do things to manipulate brand loyalty and increase it you manipulate doctrinal commitment downward.

Authority is authority is authority. A god-king is a natural outgrowth of human psychology; in the absence of a king you create a god; in the absence of a god you create a king. "God" can be a supernatural-like deity, it can be nature, it can be a set of equations, it can be an ideology, it can be oneself or one's clan.

[trotsky]

7. "in the absence of a god you create a king"

Bullshit. You speak only for yourself. The "god-shaped hole" is a bunch of nonsense.

[Starboard Tack]

13. Manmade from biological instincts.

Males have fragile egos. Creating deities is a way to assert control over the curious.
Woman created man in her own image, with a twist. She created him to protect her and to hunt and gather for her and her offspring. For his own survival, she endowed him with a sex drive and an ego, giving him the illusion that he was really the one in charge.
When things started to get out of hand, they needed to create a divinity to set down the rules of conduct. As men became more powerful, they decided which rules should apply, and in most religions, that's how it is today.

[Greatest I am]

17. Might made right but

now, women are kicking our butt and will likely take over soon.

I hope they treat us better than we have treated them.

https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A0LEV2gRTP9VokgA1sbrFAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE1N3NkcnA5BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVklQNjI2XzEEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=Philip+Zimbardo&fr=mcafee&fr2=piv-web#id=10&vid=fe416c931627082d9d2bc60c86e7f1c7&action=view

Regards
DL

[Starboard Tack]

18. It is their time, which is a good thing

And if we are not careful, they may just stop producing males, apart from the few they may need for some heavy lifting and entertainment.

[Greatest I am]

19. Perhaps they will become Amazons with just a few men for stud service.

Regards
DL