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Eugene

(61,874 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 11:49 AM Jan 2016

Christian leaders attempt to fix global date for Easter

Source: The Guardian

Christian leaders attempt to fix global date for Easter

Archbishop of canterbury Justin Welby says unified date could come in five to 10
years – allowing followers worldwide to celebrate at same time


Ben Quinn
Friday 15 January 2016 16.58 GMT

The archbishop of Canterbury has announced he is engaged in an ambitious plan to solve one of the oldest disagreements in Christianity – one dating back more than 1,600 years.

Justin Welby said he had been in discussions with Catholic representatives and the world’s other major Christian denominations to agree on a fixed day for Easter, at the end of a four-day meeting of Anglican primates whose meeting had been dominated by discord over gay rights.

The archbishop said he had warned ministers that the change could have an effect on school terms and calendars, saying he hoped the unified date on the second or third Sunday in April could be introduced in the next five to 10 years. He added: “I would love to see it before I retire.”

The rules for determining the date of Easter were set in AD325 at the council of Nicaea, which was convened by the Roman emperor Constantine to codify the Christian faith. It declared that Easter should come on the first Sunday after the 14th day of the Paschal – or ecclesiastical – full moon, meaning that it falls between 22 March 22 and 25 April where the Gregorian calendar is used.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jan/15/easter-justin-welby-christian-attempt-fix-date
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Christian leaders attempt to fix global date for Easter (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2016 OP
Would be nice to celebrate Easter at the same time with all our Christian brothers and sisters. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #1
Why? skepticscott Jan 2016 #14
It feels odd to tell a member of the Orthodox Church Happy Easter when they are still in lent. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #15
So don't tell them Happy Easter skepticscott Jan 2016 #19
It's March 27th this year underpants Jan 2016 #2
But if they get the date wrong, would our asses be scheduled to fry in the eternal bonfire? Hoppy Jan 2016 #3
Since Easter is tied to the Passover TexasProgresive Jan 2016 #4
Should always be March 20 edhopper Jan 2016 #5
for the 1,862nd year in a row! MisterP Jan 2016 #6
I guess fixing the date for easter was just too pagan for this guy: niyad Jan 2016 #7
Why is it so difficult? It's a fictional event so pick a date and viola! cleanhippie Jan 2016 #8
The rising from the dead edhopper Jan 2016 #9
Once again you're befiuddled by something and therefore blame religion. rug Jan 2016 #10
Oh please, yes. Let's ask the biblical scholars. Iggo Jan 2016 #16
That would be convenient but the Orthodoxe Churches are not part of the Anglican Communion. rug Jan 2016 #11
"representatives of Francis, the Coptic pope and the ecumenical patriarch of the Orthodox church" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #17
Sounds like they've been working on it a while in several venues. rug Jan 2016 #18
As a spectator Cartoonist Jan 2016 #12
Must be nice to have nothing better to do than this. nt mr blur Jan 2016 #13
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
14. Why?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jan 2016

What would you do differently? And should Easter for Australian Xstians be pushed back a day, so that they're not celebrating on Sunday, when it's still only Saturday for Xstians in the US?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
15. It feels odd to tell a member of the Orthodox Church Happy Easter when they are still in lent.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jan 2016

But on reflection it is nice to go to an Orthdox Easter service with friends so that would not be posible.

But it is just an emotional thing about unity.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
3. But if they get the date wrong, would our asses be scheduled to fry in the eternal bonfire?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

We already got it wrong with Da Gay thing.

















Yes, Beatrice, its satire.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
4. Since Easter is tied to the Passover
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

which is determined by the Lunar Jewish calendar this makes no real sense. It is like the Catholic Church in the U.S. moving 3 Kings day from January 6th to the Sunday following January 1st. I guess they got the idea from congress which has done its best to make every Federal holiday on a Monday. If they could legislate that July 4th is always a Monday they would or November 11th is always on a Monday.

niyad

(113,275 posts)
7. I guess fixing the date for easter was just too pagan for this guy:
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jan 2016


In 325CE the Council of Nicaea established that Easter would be held on the first Sunday after the first full moon occurring on or after the vernal equinox.(*) From that point forward, the Easter date depended on the ecclesiastical approximation of March 21 for the vernal equinox.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
8. Why is it so difficult? It's a fictional event so pick a date and viola!
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jan 2016

Or is there some disagreement between the 'serious theologians' over when this fictional event "actually" took place?

edhopper

(33,573 posts)
9. The rising from the dead
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jan 2016

not the crucifixion, At some unrecorded time, a guy named Yeshua might have been crucified. I think Josephus or Tacitus mentions it.

Any way, is it different than decided that Dec. 24th is the night Santa goes to everyone's home, or the date of a purely mythological birth.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
10. Once again you're befiuddled by something and therefore blame religion.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

It's astronomy in this case. The confusion refers to the minority still using the Julian Calendar versus the majority using the astronomically updated Gregorian Calendar.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
11. That would be convenient but the Orthodoxe Churches are not part of the Anglican Communion.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jan 2016

They are in fraternity though. Maybe they'll follow Canterbury's suggestion.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,308 posts)
17. "representatives of Francis, the Coptic pope and the ecumenical patriarch of the Orthodox church"
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jan 2016

The article ends:

Welby took journalists by surprise at a press conference when he said that Easter had come up in primates’ discussions following a meeting he had with the Coptic Pope Tawadros II in Cairo, and discussions Tawadros had with Francis and the Ecumenical Patriarch.

“Pope Tawadros has put forward the idea to churches in the eastern tradition and the western tradition that it be fixed somewhere around the second or third sunday of April and we will certainly be joining in. We have agreed that we support that,” Welby said.
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
18. Sounds like they've been working on it a while in several venues.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jan 2016

Ironically the Anglican Church rejected the Gregorian Calendar for a long time because it was adopted by Rome. It's reflected in the records of the early American colonies.

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