Priest who committed suicide to have Catholic funeral services

[trotsky]

http://www.ksat.com/news/priest-who-committed-suicide-to-have-catholic-funeral-services

Elizondo was a once-respected local leader of the Catholic Church. He was accused of sexual abuse and was found dead inside his home Monday. The Bexar County medical examiner ruled his death a suicide. The 80-year-old former rector at San Fernando Cathedral died of a self-inflicted gunshot to the head.

St. Mary's University Assistant Professor of Theology Andrew Getz said recent teachings show those who commit suicide may not be completely free nor completely understand what it is that they're doing.

"Suicide is no longer a mortal sin," Getz said.

Aw, isn't that special? They can decide the rules have changed when a child abuser in their ranks broke them, but god (sic) forbid they allow a gay teacher at one of their schools to marry their partner.

Priorities on full display. Protecting the abusers, abusing everyone else.

[rug]

1. Do you prefer he be dumped in a landfill?

[nichomachus]

2. That's not the only other options

But it's a nice straw man.

[rug]

3. What's your option?

[nichomachus]

4. Have a non-Catholic service. Bury him in a secular cemetery.

Like millions of other people do.

[rug]

5. And if his wishes, or his family's wishes, are for a Catholic funeral?

It's astounds me how anyone can view this as a bad thing.

[nichomachus]

6. Well he is going to have one

I was just reacting to your silly claim that the only two choices were a Catholic ceremony or tossing him in a landfill. There are other options.

In fact, the church changed the rules about burying suicides a long time ago. This is nothing new.

[rug]

7. That is correct. This has been the practice for a long time.

What is silly is the OP.

[skepticscott]

8. Yes, it is astounding

How the catholic Church has ever viewed giving catholics who commit suicide a proper funeral ceremony and burial in a catholic cemetery if they wished it, as bad things.

[rug]

9. My, are you now a proponent of Catholic rituals?

How liberal of you, scottie.

[skepticscott]

10. I'm a liberal

mocker of hypocrisy. So the catholic church is a prime target.

[struggle4progress]

11. Some people with suspicious minds could reach the conclusion

that several people are mainly motivated by anti-Catholic bigotry

I count us fortunate indeed that DU is so entirely free of such trolling behavior and other negativism that could feed suspicions like that

[rug]

12. Thank goodness.

Imagine what a cesspool this would be were that not the case.

[Cartoonist]

13. Anti-catholic bigotry

Please explain what you mean by that. How is that different from anti-KKK bigotry? I object to the KKK for its racism. I object to the RCC for its homophobia and misogyny. Am I a bigot?

I think you have it backwards. It is the RCC that is the bigot. Those who are anti-RCC are the just.

[skepticscott]

14. Anti-religous bigotry is a common accusation here

Among the religionist crowd. Never actually substantiated, but it makes them feel some lame sort of justification.

And we can only imagine what a cesspool DU would be if we had people defending the corruption, violence, hatred, sexism and homophobia promoted by religion. Oh…wait…

[struggle4progress]

15. I am just tickled all pink to learn that you do not consider yourself a bigot

[Lordquinton]

17. Calling out problematic behaviour is not bigotry

It's amusing to see people twist and squirm to to explain how some religious teachings aren't bigotry. Like the Catholic stance on Women in the church, and on homosexuality in general.

[struggle4progress]

18. This thread is about whether the Catholics should have held a funeral for a suicide

I really wouldn't expect much gnarly snarling and frothy foaming from non-Catholics on this subject

[Lordquinton]

19. Bring those goalposts back here!

[struggle4progress]

22. I do not see how the observance or non-observance of such funeral rites

could pick your pocket or break your leg

[Angry Dragon]

21. that would be okay

[mr blur]

16. Yeah, but I'm sure he repented before he pulled the trigger.

You know, if you tell Baby Jesus you're sorry then you get forgiven (*). Now he's up in Heaven with Hitler and Mother Teresa and the rest of them.

(*a.k.a. The Dugger Solution)

[struggle4progress]

20. While not wanting unnecessarily to belabor the obvious, I would note he's dead