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Stargleamer

(1,985 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:44 PM Feb 2017

Trump supporters really believe Jesus is on their side

Last edited Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:02 PM - Edit history (1)

a xenophobic, racist, Supply-Side, Laffer-Curve supporting Jesus: https://twitter.com/steph93065 Many of the Christians I've met in my life, on the other hand, viewed xenophobia and racism and sexism as anti-Christian.

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Trump supporters really believe Jesus is on their side (Original Post) Stargleamer Feb 2017 OP
I heard Pat Robertson is going that route too, Jesus sent him doc03 Feb 2017 #1
Oh noes shenmue Feb 2017 #2
Completely different from the Jesus I was taught in church. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #3
This Jeebus hates women, gays, blacks, Latinos, Muslims, etc. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #5
They probably think Jesus was a Christian, and... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #7
And not as Caucasian looking as they would like Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #10
Most assuredly... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #11
It's convenient there are so many different churches Mariana Feb 2017 #9
It would be nice if they all just taught the love part. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #12
It would be nice Mariana Feb 2017 #13
They can't even agree on the Bible. SwissTony Mar 2017 #24
When some athletes say that God being on their side is why they won redstateblues Feb 2017 #4
Remember...jesus picked g w bush to run the Country, also.... Tikki Feb 2017 #6
A friend of ours was married to a Methodist minister. 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #8
I can not quit laughing. Doreen Mar 2017 #29
Hmm, makes sense... arlecchino Feb 2017 #14
Also among the things Jesus said: Act_of_Reparation Feb 2017 #17
Of course... czarjak Feb 2017 #15
Because that's religion. trotsky Feb 2017 #16
Well as an atheist I don't really have a Jesus Stargleamer Feb 2017 #18
The Jesus presented in the New Testament curses those who reject him with eternity in a furnace. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2017 #19
Being an atheist, I am unfamiliar with that passage Stargleamer Feb 2017 #20
There are many. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2017 #22
Jesus christ, what a bunch of downers...LOL Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #26
No, I can't imagine such a thing. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2017 #32
Interesting that you quote bible verses Lordquinton Mar 2017 #23
I didn't think I had to reply Stargleamer Mar 2017 #33
You have a mental construct of one, though. trotsky Feb 2017 #21
The best way to know you have created god. Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #25
People said that about President Obama Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #27
Not exactly on topic but still about Trump Humpers LOL Lib Mar 2017 #28
The old testament teaches to not tolerate Doreen Mar 2017 #30
Everyone thinks God is on their side!!! atreides1 Mar 2017 #31

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
5. This Jeebus hates women, gays, blacks, Latinos, Muslims, etc.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:02 PM
Feb 2017

Surely you have heard of this Jeebus?

If not, let me assure you he exists in the minds of millions of assholes.

Silly liberals, thinking doing the right thing is important.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
9. It's convenient there are so many different churches
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:22 PM
Feb 2017

that teach so many different Jesuses. If people are willing to spend some time shopping around, they can often find a church with a Jesus that agrees with them about everything.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
13. It would be nice
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 08:53 PM
Feb 2017

but even Jesus himself didn't just teach the love part. He also taught division and strife.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
24. They can't even agree on the Bible.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 08:56 AM
Mar 2017
http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/2008/august/why-are-protestant-and-catholic-bibles-different.html

"In addition to these 39 books, the Catholic Old Testament includes Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus (Sirach), Baruch (includes the Letters of Jeremiah), I and II Maccabees, and additions to Daniel and Esther. These books were included in the Septuagint, a Greek translation of a different Hebrew canon. Early church fathers, who relied on the Septuagint (they could read Greek, but not Hebrew), sometimes quoted these books as Scripture. The status of the books continued to be debated throughout the Middle Ages."

I was brought up as a Catholic and it was a source of pride that our bible had more books in it than the "Proddies" as we called them (Glasgow, 1950s).

They also differ on other issues

http://christianityinview.com/comparison.html

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
4. When some athletes say that God being on their side is why they won
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:01 PM
Feb 2017

does that mean he was against the other team? Some bad religion going on there. I doubt that God is ever pulling for Belichick!

3catwoman3

(23,947 posts)
8. A friend of ours was married to a Methodist minister.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:13 PM
Feb 2017

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He was a pretty reasonable guy overall. Not so some of his congregants.

Our friend told us that one of the congregation members objected to foreign languages being tought in American schools. His rationale - "If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me."

I find sugh ignorance astounding and disturbing.

arlecchino

(7 posts)
14. Hmm, makes sense...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:07 PM
Feb 2017

"Jesus said…Thou shalt love the dollar with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt deflect unto thy neighbor as thou deemest necessary."

Jesus fed the 5000 with 2 fish; Trump's miracles will allow his disciples to finally have a talking fish on every wall in their homes.



Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
17. Also among the things Jesus said:
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:27 AM
Feb 2017
But whenever you enter a town and they do not welcome you, go out into its streets and say, 'Even the dust of your town that clings to our feet we wipe off in protest against you. Yet know this: the kingdom of God has come near.' I tell you, on that day, it will be more tolerable for Sodom than for that town.

- Luke 10:10-12

You know, right before he said the entire town of Capernaum would be cast down into hell.

Looks like there's a Jesus for everyone.

czarjak

(11,253 posts)
15. Of course...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:57 PM
Feb 2017

The guy who can't think of anything he needs forgiveness for is your brother in Christ. Trust me, believe me too.

Stargleamer

(1,985 posts)
18. Well as an atheist I don't really have a Jesus
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 05:01 PM
Feb 2017

and am not even sure he actually existed. However, I think it's rather a huge stretch to view that the Jesus presented in the New Testament could ever condone xenophobia, racism, resentment of the poor, etc. in light of Matthew 25:35-45. To see him as condoning such things takes a deliberate effort to see things based on conservative fears and resentments rather than what was more or less clearly presented in red verses such as these.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
19. The Jesus presented in the New Testament curses those who reject him with eternity in a furnace.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:12 PM
Feb 2017

Does that sort of thinking engender love for one's non-Christian neighbors? Or does it reinforce fear or hatred of the other?

Stargleamer

(1,985 posts)
20. Being an atheist, I am unfamiliar with that passage
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:26 PM
Feb 2017

maybe you can refer me to the it. If he does curses nonChristians, then, yes, I can better see how many of those adopting Christianity could be fine with castigating the outsider.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
22. There are many.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 10:26 AM
Feb 2017

Matthew 3:10, 12
Matthew 7:13-14
Matthew 7:19
Matthew 8:12
Matthew 10:5-6
Matthew 10:14-15
Matthew 10:21
Matthew 10:33
Matthew 12:30
Matthew 12:31-32
Matthew 13:41-42, 50
Matthew 15:13
Matthew 21:44
Matthew 23:31
Matthew 25:30
Matthew 25:41
Matthew 27:25

Mark 6:11
Mark 6:16

Luke 3: 9
Luke 3:17
Luke 10:10-15
Luke 10:16
Luke 11:23
Luke 12:10
Luke 13:23-30
Luke 19:12-27

John 3:18, 36
John 3:36
John 5:16
John 7:1
John 7:13
John 8:24
John 8:44
John 12:48
John 14:6
John 14:21
John 15:6
John 15:22
John 17: 9

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
26. Jesus christ, what a bunch of downers...LOL
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:35 PM
Mar 2017

I forgot just how silly it all is.

Can you imagine if there was no religion and someone like fuckface, conman, could not use it to manipulate uneducated and immature people?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
32. No, I can't imagine such a thing.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 03:22 PM
Mar 2017

But I should add, I wouldn't limit believers to being uneducated and immature. I would add fearful to the list as well.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
23. Interesting that you quote bible verses
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:53 AM
Mar 2017

and have a general knowledge of Jesus, but don't know of the many times he condemned people, including one about two verses before the one you quoted. You also failed to respond when you were shown to be incorrect.

Stargleamer

(1,985 posts)
33. I didn't think I had to reply
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:05 AM
Mar 2017

As it was self-evident that Act of Reparation's superior familiarity with the Bible spoke for itself

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
27. People said that about President Obama
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:35 PM
Mar 2017

That Jesus was on his side. He was thought of as a messiah to some. Of course it just goes to show that different people have different ideas of what Jesus or a savior truly is.

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
28. Not exactly on topic but still about Trump Humpers
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:39 PM
Mar 2017

I visited my college politics message board this AM. It is filled with racist Trump supporters. It is disgusting to see them spin Trumps words. They absolutely believe that Obama wire tapped Trump. They believe every word that Trump says and they have old Breitbart/Infowars articles as their "proof." I cannot post there anymore because they are intolerable and refuse to believe that Trump is a con man. I wish someone from here could talk sense to them. I don't have the skills to argue with crazy people.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
30. The old testament teaches to not tolerate
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:56 PM
Mar 2017

non Christians. It talks about genocide of entire races of non believers. I take it they read this and take it to a very literal level.

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
31. Everyone thinks God is on their side!!!
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:06 PM
Mar 2017

German soldiers had Gott mit uns inscribed on their helmets in the First World War. To the Germans it was a rallying cry, "a Protestant as well as an Imperial motto, the expression of German religious, political and ethnic single-mindedness, or the numerous unity of altar, throne and Volk".

During the Second World War Wehrmacht soldiers wore this slogan on their belt buckles,[9] as opposed to members of the Waffen SS, who wore the motto Meine Ehre heißt Treue ('My honour is loyalty'). After the war the motto was also used by the Bundeswehr and German police, it was replaced with "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" ("Unity and Justice and Freedom&quot in 1962 (police within the 1970s), the first line of the third stanza of the Lied der Deutschen.


"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right."
Abraham Lincoln

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