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a xenophobic, racist, Supply-Side, Laffer-Curve supporting Jesus: https://twitter.com/steph93065 Many of the Christians I've met in my life, on the other hand, viewed xenophobia and racism and sexism as anti-Christian.
doc03
(35,295 posts)to save Merika.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Surely you have heard of this Jeebus?
If not, let me assure you he exists in the minds of millions of assholes.
Silly liberals, thinking doing the right thing is important.
3catwoman3
(23,947 posts)...would be horrified to know that he was Jewish.
Phoenix61
(16,993 posts)3catwoman3
(23,947 posts)...not. He would be deported based on skin color.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)that teach so many different Jesuses. If people are willing to spend some time shopping around, they can often find a church with a Jesus that agrees with them about everything.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)but even Jesus himself didn't just teach the love part. He also taught division and strife.
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)"In addition to these 39 books, the Catholic Old Testament includes Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus (Sirach), Baruch (includes the Letters of Jeremiah), I and II Maccabees, and additions to Daniel and Esther. These books were included in the Septuagint, a Greek translation of a different Hebrew canon. Early church fathers, who relied on the Septuagint (they could read Greek, but not Hebrew), sometimes quoted these books as Scripture. The status of the books continued to be debated throughout the Middle Ages."
I was brought up as a Catholic and it was a source of pride that our bible had more books in it than the "Proddies" as we called them (Glasgow, 1950s).
They also differ on other issues
http://christianityinview.com/comparison.html
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)does that mean he was against the other team? Some bad religion going on there. I doubt that God is ever pulling for Belichick!
Tikki
(14,549 posts)into the ground, apparently.
Tikki
3catwoman3
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He was a pretty reasonable guy overall. Not so some of his congregants.
Our friend told us that one of the congregation members objected to foreign languages being tought in American schools. His rationale - "If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me."
I find sugh ignorance astounding and disturbing.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)arlecchino
(7 posts)"Jesus said
Thou shalt love the dollar with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt deflect unto thy neighbor as thou deemest necessary."
Jesus fed the 5000 with 2 fish; Trump's miracles will allow his disciples to finally have a talking fish on every wall in their homes.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)- Luke 10:10-12
You know, right before he said the entire town of Capernaum would be cast down into hell.
Looks like there's a Jesus for everyone.
czarjak
(11,253 posts)The guy who can't think of anything he needs forgiveness for is your brother in Christ. Trust me, believe me too.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Their Jesus is just as valid as yours.
Stargleamer
(1,985 posts)and am not even sure he actually existed. However, I think it's rather a huge stretch to view that the Jesus presented in the New Testament could ever condone xenophobia, racism, resentment of the poor, etc. in light of Matthew 25:35-45. To see him as condoning such things takes a deliberate effort to see things based on conservative fears and resentments rather than what was more or less clearly presented in red verses such as these.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Does that sort of thinking engender love for one's non-Christian neighbors? Or does it reinforce fear or hatred of the other?
Stargleamer
(1,985 posts)maybe you can refer me to the it. If he does curses nonChristians, then, yes, I can better see how many of those adopting Christianity could be fine with castigating the outsider.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Matthew 3:10, 12
Matthew 7:13-14
Matthew 7:19
Matthew 8:12
Matthew 10:5-6
Matthew 10:14-15
Matthew 10:21
Matthew 10:33
Matthew 12:30
Matthew 12:31-32
Matthew 13:41-42, 50
Matthew 15:13
Matthew 21:44
Matthew 23:31
Matthew 25:30
Matthew 25:41
Matthew 27:25
Mark 6:11
Mark 6:16
Luke 3: 9
Luke 3:17
Luke 10:10-15
Luke 10:16
Luke 11:23
Luke 12:10
Luke 13:23-30
Luke 19:12-27
John 3:18, 36
John 3:36
John 5:16
John 7:1
John 7:13
John 8:24
John 8:44
John 12:48
John 14:6
John 14:21
John 15:6
John 15:22
John 17: 9
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)I forgot just how silly it all is.
Can you imagine if there was no religion and someone like fuckface, conman, could not use it to manipulate uneducated and immature people?
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)But I should add, I wouldn't limit believers to being uneducated and immature. I would add fearful to the list as well.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)and have a general knowledge of Jesus, but don't know of the many times he condemned people, including one about two verses before the one you quoted. You also failed to respond when you were shown to be incorrect.
Stargleamer
(1,985 posts)As it was self-evident that Act of Reparation's superior familiarity with the Bible spoke for itself
trotsky
(49,533 posts)As does every believer. And yeah, there's a lot he said that should be concerning for any truly moral person.
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/11/reasons-to-be-ashamed-and-not-fan-of.html
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)He has exactly all the same beliefs you do.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)That Jesus was on his side. He was thought of as a messiah to some. Of course it just goes to show that different people have different ideas of what Jesus or a savior truly is.
LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)I visited my college politics message board this AM. It is filled with racist Trump supporters. It is disgusting to see them spin Trumps words. They absolutely believe that Obama wire tapped Trump. They believe every word that Trump says and they have old Breitbart/Infowars articles as their "proof." I cannot post there anymore because they are intolerable and refuse to believe that Trump is a con man. I wish someone from here could talk sense to them. I don't have the skills to argue with crazy people.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)non Christians. It talks about genocide of entire races of non believers. I take it they read this and take it to a very literal level.
atreides1
(16,066 posts)German soldiers had Gott mit uns inscribed on their helmets in the First World War. To the Germans it was a rallying cry, "a Protestant as well as an Imperial motto, the expression of German religious, political and ethnic single-mindedness, or the numerous unity of altar, throne and Volk".
During the Second World War Wehrmacht soldiers wore this slogan on their belt buckles,[9] as opposed to members of the Waffen SS, who wore the motto Meine Ehre heißt Treue ('My honour is loyalty'). After the war the motto was also used by the Bundeswehr and German police, it was replaced with "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" ("Unity and Justice and Freedom" in 1962 (police within the 1970s), the first line of the third stanza of the Lied der Deutschen.
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right."
Abraham Lincoln