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Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 02:59 PM Mar 2017

Nicaraguan woman dies after being thrown into a fire in exorcism ritual

And people wonder why atheists have a problem with religion!


Outside a church in a remote part of Nicaragua last week, a pastor and a group from his congregation stood around a bonfire for a prayer, their eyes closed and hands raised.

A 25-year-old woman needed healing, and through a divine revelation, a church leader claimed to have instructions to build the fire to cure her. They stripped the woman naked, tied up her hands and feet and hurled her into the flames, Nicaraguan police said. She was consumed by the fire and suffered first and second degree burns over 80 percent of her body.

...

Apart from the religious aspect, nothing justifies an act that is as cruel as burning a woman, putting her on a fire with the help of other people who you have used religion to manipulate,” Jimenez said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nicaragua-exorcism-vilma-trujillo-garcia-burned-alive-ritual-demons-religious-sects-a7605481.html

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Nicaraguan woman dies after being thrown into a fire in exorcism ritual (Original Post) Curmudgeoness Mar 2017 OP
this is sad and horrific beyond words luvMIdog Mar 2017 #1
"apart from the religious aspect...." Heddi Mar 2017 #2
No one can prove he was wrong, either. trotsky Mar 2017 #3
I guess this means that religious DOES justify this. Curmudgeoness Mar 2017 #6
Can't talk about exorcism here... Fix The Stupid Mar 2017 #4
Oh noes! Curmudgeoness Mar 2017 #5
But the "religious aspect" justifies it? Really? MineralMan Mar 2017 #7
I particularly liked that line. Curmudgeoness Mar 2017 #8
If not for religion and belief in the supernatural The Sand Reckoner Mar 2017 #11
+1 EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2017 #9
I find it distasteful to... NeoGreen Mar 2017 #10
This is horrible. Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #12

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
2. "apart from the religious aspect...."
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 03:05 PM
Mar 2017

what other aspect is there? It was religious belief that was the driving force for the need for exorcism. "A CHURCH LEADER CLAIMED TO HAVE INSTRUCTIONS TO BUILD THE FIRE TO CURE HER."

CHURCH
LEADER

"A PASTOR AND A GROUP FROM HIS CONGREGATION STOOD AROUND A BONFIRE FOR A PRAYER..."

There is *no* other aspect aside from religion. It is the ONLY aspect.

but please, let's call this what it is:
1) not a real religion
2) okay maybe real but not officially sanctioned
3) Okay maybe offically sanctioned by show me where it says....
4) DAWKINSSSSsss

Fix The Stupid

(947 posts)
4. Can't talk about exorcism here...
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 04:09 PM
Mar 2017

Just. don't.

I got a ridiculous hide recently about this.

For instance, you can't say that people who believe in exorcism are mentally unhinged. Apparently the people who believe in 'demons' and 'possessions' take this as a great insult.

So, let's just pretend this is normal. Hell, it's 2017, believers just elected a mentally unhinged fascist, but for all means, let's pretend this is a real thing and give it 'respect'...

What's the worst that could happen? A woman getting thrown into a fire? Minor collateral damage because we have to 'respect' their beliefs.





Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
5. Oh noes!
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 04:17 PM
Mar 2017

What do you mean, we can't talk about exorcism here!?!?!? I think we already are.

And if I get my first hide with this article, that would be unfortunate, but not earth-shattering.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
7. But the "religious aspect" justifies it? Really?
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 04:34 PM
Mar 2017

No thanks. Religion justifies nothing, in my opinion. It is a creation of human society, and reflects the nature of the society that created it. That does not speak very well for human society, I'm afraid.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. I particularly liked that line.
Fri Mar 3, 2017, 05:50 PM
Mar 2017

"Liked it" meaning that I was "appalled by it". I added that to the teaser because it was so outrageous.

NOTHING justifies this. Religion may "cause" this sort of thing though.

 

The Sand Reckoner

(194 posts)
11. If not for religion and belief in the supernatural
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:23 AM
Mar 2017

this would not have happened. There is no "may" about it.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
10. I find it distasteful to...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:12 AM
Mar 2017

..."Rec" stories like this.

What a world religion has wrought.

Burning a person alive (anywhere) is not worth all the stained glass in all the world's cathedrals.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
12. This is horrible.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:27 PM
Mar 2017

I think this is probably one of the worst ways to die. The pain must be horrible.

And, yeah, religion. Jesus.

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