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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:38 PM Mar 2017

Islamic Headscarf Ban Ruled Legal in European Workplaces

ALASTAIR JAMIESON

LONDON — Europe's highest court ruled Tuesday that employers are allowed to ban workers from wearing visible political or religious symbols including Islamic headscarves.

In its first direct judgment on the topic, the European Court of Justice said a workplace rule prohibiting any such item "does not constitute direct discrimination" if applied universally.

The decision, which applies to all 28 countries in the bloc, came in in two cases including one brought by a Muslim receptionist in Belgium employed by contracting giant G4S.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/islamic-headscarf-ban-ruled-legal-european-workplaces-n733166

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Islamic Headscarf Ban Ruled Legal in European Workplaces (Original Post) hrmjustin Mar 2017 OP
Somewhat misleading Lordquinton Mar 2017 #1
I agree it will not be enforced fairly. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #2
France also has a similar law, but Catholic headdresses are not targeted. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #3
What "Catholic headdresses"? whathehell Mar 2017 #4
I was raised Catholic in the 1950s and on. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #5
Yeah, me too... whathehell Mar 2017 #6
What you said: guillaumeb Mar 2017 #7
Um, no.. whathehell Mar 2017 #8
When rosaries are banned, and collars, and crosses, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #9
Lol...How about yarmulkes, korans and stars of David? whathehell Mar 2017 #10

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
1. Somewhat misleading
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:49 PM
Mar 2017

It's a global ban on iconography, not targeting headscarves. But the enforcement will certainly not be even handed, i can't imagine people being asked to remove crosses or anything. Hopefully my speghitti pendant flys under the radar.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. France also has a similar law, but Catholic headdresses are not targeted.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 05:49 PM
Mar 2017

Apparently some religious wear is more objectionable.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. I was raised Catholic in the 1950s and on.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 05:53 PM
Mar 2017

All female religious orders wore habits and head dresses. It is now optional, but some still wear them.

So I must disagree with you on this.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
6. Yeah, me too...
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 06:10 PM
Mar 2017

and the religious clothing worn by a tiny fraction of Catholic women who willingly entered religious orders can hardly be compared to the custom (command in some countries) that ALL Muslim women cover their heads and necks in public.....Get serious.





guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. What you said:
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 06:14 PM
Mar 2017
What "Catholic headdresses"?

I was raised Catholic...There is no such thing.


SO again, we have a circumstance where some types of religious garments are acceptable, and others are not.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
8. Um, no..
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 07:23 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Thu Mar 16, 2017, 08:06 PM - Edit history (1)

not "again", because now we're talking about a difference in circumstance, rather than in people... When the circumstances are the same but the people are different, then you can claim discrimination, not the reverse.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. When rosaries are banned, and collars, and crosses,
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 08:13 PM
Mar 2017

I will agree. But in my view this is a manifestation of hyper-laïcité, and I feel that this is a typical intolerance of Islam. An intolerance that extends from the 18th Century into the 21st.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
10. Lol...How about yarmulkes, korans and stars of David?
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 07:08 AM
Mar 2017

or is it only Catholicism you hate?

Again, your analogies are poor, but you have succeeded in making your own biases clear. Have a nice day.



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