Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
Sun May 7, 2017, 03:58 PM May 2017

Centuries of progress

Leviticus 25:44-46

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.


meanwhile, the religious stand still

Rick Santorum: “A child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African American baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President.”

John Hubbard: “The institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise."

Art Robinson: “The negroes on a well-ordered estate, under kind masters, were probably a happier class of people than the laborers upon any estate in Europe.”

Loy Mauch: "If slavery were so God-awful, why didn’t Jesus or Paul condemn it, why was it in the Constitution and why wasn’t there a war before 1861?"
24 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Centuries of progress (Original Post) Cartoonist May 2017 OP
Your point is . . . . what? Religious people support slavery? rug May 2017 #1
You're catching on Cartoonist May 2017 #2
If that's your point, it's an idiotic one. rug May 2017 #3
I gave you a chance Cartoonist May 2017 #4
LOL! rug May 2017 #5
How can you laugh? Cartoonist May 2017 #7
Do tell. Are you talking about the Moonies? rug May 2017 #9
try to keep up to date Cartoonist May 2017 #10
Ah. Are their masters, priests, imams or rabbis? rug May 2017 #11
fellow Catholics Cartoonist May 2017 #12
I rug May 2017 #13
Yes Cartoonist May 2017 #14
If you didn't call the police you're complicit. rug May 2017 #16
The police see them too Cartoonist May 2017 #19
Neither did you. rug May 2017 #20
Well, they have done in the past, certainly. MineralMan May 2017 #6
"Richard Dawkins expresses disbelief over slave owner ancestor story" rug May 2017 #8
So what? MineralMan May 2017 #18
"I bet his ancestor was a Christian. At least he provided a lovely estate for his descendants. " Lordquinton May 2017 #21
Dawkins Cartoonist May 2017 #15
Whenever someone says the sky is blue you croak out pedophilia! rug May 2017 #17
Hey look, your church has a wiki page. AtheistCrusader May 2017 #22
So do you. rug May 2017 #24
First! Iggo May 2017 #23
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
3. If that's your point, it's an idiotic one.
Sun May 7, 2017, 04:12 PM
May 2017

Still waiting for one of you to acknowledge anti-Catholic bigotry.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
4. I gave you a chance
Sun May 7, 2017, 04:15 PM
May 2017

but you let Leviticus slide.

Criticizing the Catholic church is not bigotry, it's calling Hate for what it is.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
7. How can you laugh?
Sun May 7, 2017, 04:36 PM
May 2017

I often see slaves standing on street corners selling strawberries. I guess you think that's funny.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
10. try to keep up to date
Sun May 7, 2017, 04:51 PM
May 2017

Immigrants trying to pay their masters for bringing them to America. It gets hot under the sun. Keep laughing in the shade.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
13. I
Sun May 7, 2017, 06:06 PM
May 2017

That calls for outright mockery, not laughter.

So, you've encountered Catholics enslaved by other Catholics selling strawberries on street corners?

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
6. Well, they have done in the past, certainly.
Sun May 7, 2017, 04:28 PM
May 2017

Perhaps some still do. Fortunately, slavery is illegal in most developed countries. Humanism finally eradicated it, regardless of the lingering sentiments of some. It still exists, but not in very many places.

However, some religious people in the United States supported it for quite some time, until they were forced to abandon the practice in the middle of the 19th century. That went down poorly in some parts of this country, and some still wish for it to still be an option.

It's incorrect to say that religions did not support slavery. Obviously, that is not true. The verses being quoted from the Bible are evidence of it. That is too bad, of course, but we humans have not always been enlightened in such matters. We're doing better about that now, although there are still remnants of such views in evidence.

So, yes, religious people have supported slavery, historically, and longer than they have not supported it. That cannot be denied.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. "Richard Dawkins expresses disbelief over slave owner ancestor story"
Sun May 7, 2017, 04:43 PM
May 2017


https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/feb/19/richard-dawkins-disbelief-slave-trade-ancestor

That cannot be denied.

I bet his ancestor was a Christian. At least he provided a lovely estate for his descendants.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
21. "I bet his ancestor was a Christian. At least he provided a lovely estate for his descendants. "
Sun May 7, 2017, 11:48 PM
May 2017

Thanks for the proof you didn't read the article.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
17. Whenever someone says the sky is blue you croak out pedophilia!
Sun May 7, 2017, 07:53 PM
May 2017

Excuse me, today it's enslaved Catholics selling strawberries.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Religion»Centuries of progress