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muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:35 PM Jul 2017

Kentucky Officials Have Ended the $18 Million Tax Rebate Deal With Ark Encounter

Quick summary: The Creationists behind Ark Encounter initially said they were building a for-profit attraction in order to get a lot of perks, including a tourism-related tax rebate from the state of Kentucky worth more than $18 million over ten years. But after the city of Williamstown said they would add a 50-cent surcharge to all tickets to pay for a safety fee, Ken Ham‘s team sold Ark Encounter to their own non-profit, Crosswater Canyon, because religious ministries are exempt from that kind of tax.

Earlier today, the Freedom From Religion Foundation announced that they had sent a letter to the Kentucky Tourism, Arts, and Heritage Cabinet notifying them that, because of the sale and new non-profit status, Ark Encounter is violating the terms of the tax rebate deal.

Guess what? They didn’t need to do that. Because three days ago, a lawyer for the Kentucky Tourism, Arts, and Heritage Cabinet sent a letter to the lawyer for Ark Encounter saying the exact same thing.

It has come to our attention that your client, Ark Encounter, LLC, is in breach of its Tourism Development Agreement… with the Commonwealth. On July 10, 2017, the Tourism, Arts, and Heritage Cabinet… became aware of a quit claim deed transferring the Ark Project land, with all the privileges and appurtenances to the same, from Ark Encounter, LLC, a for profit company, to Crosswater Canyon, Inc. a non-profit company.
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Furthermore, as a the Tourism Development Agreement is between the Commonwealth and Ark Encounter, LLC, not Crosswater Canyon, LLC, the current owner, please be advised that no further incentives may accrue from sales tax imposed on sales generated by or arising at the tourism development project, as of the date of transfer of the property, June 28, 2017.

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The Creationists running Ark Encounter just screwed themselves out of $18 million over the next decade because they didn’t want to pay a local safety fee worth about $700,000 a year.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/07/21/kentucky-officials-have-ended-the-18-million-tax-rebate-deal-with-ark-encounter/
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Kentucky Officials Have Ended the $18 Million Tax Rebate Deal With Ark Encounter (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 OP
What about the creditors to Ark Encounter, LLC? exboyfil Jul 2017 #1
Well, as the saying goes, "Render unto Caesar..." nt COLGATE4 Jul 2017 #2
Recommended. eom guillaumeb Jul 2017 #3
He made the same mistakes Bakker did Warpy Jul 2017 #4
My neighbor in the eighties Maggiemayhem Jul 2017 #14
Good colsohlibgal Jul 2017 #5
I can't pigeonhole Kentucky. central scrutinizer Jul 2017 #6
You should live here. Liberal Jesus Freak Jul 2017 #8
I think I'll stay here central scrutinizer Jul 2017 #9
I don't blame you! Liberal Jesus Freak Jul 2017 #11
And don't forget the tea-party whack a doodle Governor ... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2017 #13
The arc encounter guy is an oswaldactedalone Jul 2017 #7
I don't think he's HuskyOffset Jul 2017 #12
Another cherry on top exboyfil Jul 2017 #10

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
1. What about the creditors to Ark Encounter, LLC?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:44 PM
Jul 2017

I don't think you can just transfer assets in this fashion. Everyone who also purchased a lifetime member could also be considered a creditor. Maybe the new organization will honor the membership, maybe they will not but the lifetime members should have a say.

They sold a lot of bonds secured by the Ark. Are those bonds still good. Shouldn't bond orders be going crazy right now?

Warpy

(111,166 posts)
4. He made the same mistakes Bakker did
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:58 PM
Jul 2017

He put this thing in the wrong place and narrowed his potential customer base down too far.

A look at Heritage, USA over on You Tube is sobering, to say the least. Bakker had ten times the draw that Ham does and it still failed. If old Jimbo had cut back on the preachy piety and turned one chapel into a beer garden, the place might have been more successful. Oh, and if he hadn't been caught with his hands in the till.

Maggiemayhem

(807 posts)
14. My neighbor in the eighties
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jul 2017

Her ex's family had a place there in Baker Land and she said they sprayed insecticide at night because bugs weren't allowed to exist there.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
5. Good
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jul 2017

These delusional people are trying so hard to create more delusional people. The Universe is not a few thousand years old, it is provable.

central scrutinizer

(11,637 posts)
6. I can't pigeonhole Kentucky.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jul 2017

They do something good like this and they were one of the leaders in implementing ACA and Medicaid expansion. Then there is the Turtle and Ayn Rand Paul.

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
12. I don't think he's
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jul 2017

incompressible, I just think you're not using enough force. I'm guessing the weight of this fuckup is going to compress Mr Ham a bit.

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