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Related: About this forumMy Faith: Returning to church, despite my doubts
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/05/my-faith-returning-to-church-despite-my-doubts/comment-page-3/Editor's note: Andrea Palpant Dilley is the author of Faith and Other Flat Tires.
By Andrea Palpant Dilley, Special to CNN
During my junior year in college, I took a butter knife from my mothers kitchen and scraped the Christian fish decal off the back bumper of the Plymouth hatchback Id inherited from my older brother. Stripping off that sticker foreshadowed the day, a few years later, that I would walk out of church.
The reasons for my discontent were complicated. By most standards, I had a healthy childhood. I grew up the daughter of Quaker missionaries in a rural Kenyan community that laid the foundation for my faith. I spent the rest of my childhood in the Pacific Northwest, raised in a stable Presbyterian church that gave me hymns and mission trips and potluck dinners.
I was surrounded by smart, conscientious Christians, the kind of people who read 19th century Russian novels and took meatloaf to firefighters when much of eastern Washington state went up in flames in the fall of 1991.
When I started into my skeptic phase, my Christian community gave me space to struggle. They listened to my doubts about faith. They took my questions seriously.
And yet when I turned 23 I left the church.
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First: My doubt belonged in church.
Second: My doubt is actually part of my faith.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I think everyone's struggles are different when it comes to religion and she articulates hers quite well.
The part you quote really spoke to me.
darkstar3
(8,763 posts)There is something revealing in that idea...something I think Dr. Dawkins hit on rather well.
rug
(82,333 posts)darkstar3
(8,763 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Dawkins' thoughts are quite irrelevant to that.
The point remains: doubt is a part of faith as much as hope is a part of faith.
Now, are you sure you want to continue?
darkstar3
(8,763 posts)in the face of doubt without a single shred of evidence qualifies as a form of delusion?
rug
(82,333 posts)If you want my opinion on it anyway, post the full excerpt. It's not that I distrust your ability to to restate others' statements.
darkstar3
(8,763 posts)skepticscott
(13,029 posts)seems to be a necessity for those who need to be taken seriously about what they can't take entirely seriously themselves.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)skepticscott
(13,029 posts)I simply observe that many who make public professions of "faith" also seem to need to parade their "doubt" before others in order to gain legitimacy as people who are ultimately rational. But those who do so also generally paint their ultimate "faith" (or return to "faith" as inevitable, making the whole process seem rather disingenuous. "Faith" appeals to reason and evidence when it suits, and denies the need for it when it doesn't.
pinto
(106,886 posts)They are a publicly "welcoming church" for GLBTers. Have female officiants. Very socially active here in town. Seem to be really pro-active with putting broad Christian principles into practice, in real terms and in day-to-day stuff.
Would be a loss of sorts for me. I'd feel odd passing by the mission, and leaving the church I grew up in.
Yet, truth be told, I've never been a regular mass goer. I stop by at times to "touch base", light a candle, remember those close to me and literally hope for the best, for us all. And I love the enormous silence a Catholic church affords. Go to mass on the obvious observance days.
I've been to an Episcopalian service - was a guest speaker during the homily part. My take was that there was enough ritual - which I appreciate - to connect with. And a strong community sense that means a lot outside of the building, the Sunday service, etc.