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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:25 PM May 2012

My Faith: Returning to church, despite my doubts

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/05/my-faith-returning-to-church-despite-my-doubts/comment-page-3/




Editor's note: Andrea Palpant Dilley is the author of “Faith and Other Flat Tires.”

By Andrea Palpant Dilley, Special to CNN

During my junior year in college, I took a butter knife from my mother’s kitchen and scraped the Christian fish decal off the back bumper of the Plymouth hatchback I’d inherited from my older brother. Stripping off that sticker foreshadowed the day, a few years later, that I would walk out of church.

The reasons for my discontent were complicated. By most standards, I had a healthy childhood. I grew up the daughter of Quaker missionaries in a rural Kenyan community that laid the foundation for my faith. I spent the rest of my childhood in the Pacific Northwest, raised in a stable Presbyterian church that gave me hymns and mission trips and potluck dinners.

I was surrounded by smart, conscientious Christians, the kind of people who read 19th century Russian novels and took meatloaf to firefighters when much of eastern Washington state went up in flames in the fall of 1991.

When I started into my skeptic phase, my Christian community gave me space to struggle. They listened to my doubts about faith. They took my questions seriously.

And yet when I turned 23 I left the church.

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. I enjoyed it as well.
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:50 PM
May 2012

I think everyone's struggles are different when it comes to religion and she articulates hers quite well.

The part you quote really spoke to me.

darkstar3

(8,763 posts)
6. Because without doubt there can be no faith, as my pastor once said.
Sun May 6, 2012, 04:50 PM
May 2012

There is something revealing in that idea...something I think Dr. Dawkins hit on rather well.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
10. I did and I know what I wrote.
Sun May 6, 2012, 05:33 PM
May 2012

Dawkins' thoughts are quite irrelevant to that.

The point remains: doubt is a part of faith as much as hope is a part of faith.

Now, are you sure you want to continue?

darkstar3

(8,763 posts)
11. So you agree then, with Dawkins' assessment, that faith
Sun May 6, 2012, 05:40 PM
May 2012

in the face of doubt without a single shred of evidence qualifies as a form of delusion?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
12. I'm not sure that is his assessment. Whatever it is, though, is irrelevant, as I've already said.
Sun May 6, 2012, 05:48 PM
May 2012

If you want my opinion on it anyway, post the full excerpt. It's not that I distrust your ability to to restate others' statements.

darkstar3

(8,763 posts)
13. I can't post an excerpt, it's the entire book.
Sun May 6, 2012, 05:56 PM
May 2012
The God Delusion is the slow explanation of the book's chief premise (the title) by a college professor. Feel free to read the book, and then if you disagree with my summation we can discuss it.
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
3. The lip service to "doubt"
Sun May 6, 2012, 01:10 PM
May 2012

seems to be a necessity for those who need to be taken seriously about what they can't take entirely seriously themselves.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
8. I don't necessarily think they are insincere
Sun May 6, 2012, 05:07 PM
May 2012

I simply observe that many who make public professions of "faith" also seem to need to parade their "doubt" before others in order to gain legitimacy as people who are ultimately rational. But those who do so also generally paint their ultimate "faith" (or return to "faith&quot as inevitable, making the whole process seem rather disingenuous. "Faith" appeals to reason and evidence when it suits, and denies the need for it when it doesn't.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
5. I'm still considering attending the local Episcopal church.
Sun May 6, 2012, 03:16 PM
May 2012

They are a publicly "welcoming church" for GLBTers. Have female officiants. Very socially active here in town. Seem to be really pro-active with putting broad Christian principles into practice, in real terms and in day-to-day stuff.

Would be a loss of sorts for me. I'd feel odd passing by the mission, and leaving the church I grew up in.

Yet, truth be told, I've never been a regular mass goer. I stop by at times to "touch base", light a candle, remember those close to me and literally hope for the best, for us all. And I love the enormous silence a Catholic church affords. Go to mass on the obvious observance days.

I've been to an Episcopalian service - was a guest speaker during the homily part. My take was that there was enough ritual - which I appreciate - to connect with. And a strong community sense that means a lot outside of the building, the Sunday service, etc.



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