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intaglio

(8,170 posts)
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:24 AM May 2012

Is Gay marriage a Christian tradition? cross post from LGBT forum

I found this site Gay Christian 101 which seems to show evidence that until the 16th Century gay marriages were carried out by both the Catholic and Orthodox churches. Interesting elements of the web page follow.

St. Serge and St. Bacchus, two Roman soldiers who became Christian martyrs.
While the pairing of saints, particularly in the early church, was not unusual, the association of these two men was regarded as particularly close. Severus of Antioch in the sixth century explained that "we should not separate in speech [Serge and Bacchus] who were joined in life." More bluntly, in the definitive 10th century Greek account of their lives, St. Serge is openly described as the "sweet companion and lover" of St. Bacchus.
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The ceremonies Boswell describes had all the contemporary symbols of a marriage.

A community gathered in a church
A blessing of the couple before the altar
Their right hands joined as at heterosexual marriages
The participation of a priest
The taking of the Eucharist
A wedding banquet afterwards

All of these are shown in contemporary drawings of the same sex union of Byzantine Emperor Basil I (867-886) and his companion John. Such homosexual unions also took place in Ireland in the late 12th to early 13th century, as the chronicler Gerald of Wales (Geraldus Cambrensis) has recorded.
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At St. John Lateran in Rome (traditionally the Pope's parish church) in 1578, as many as 13 couples were "married" at Mass with the apparent cooperation of the local clergy, "taking communion together, using the same nuptial Scripture, after which they slept and ate together," according to a contemporary report.

Just some ammunition for the liberal Christians, Atheists and Agnostics to use
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Is Gay marriage a Christian tradition? cross post from LGBT forum (Original Post) intaglio May 2012 OP
Marking to read later. tanyev May 2012 #1
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this. cbayer May 2012 #2
Well, after all, there were homosexual relationships in the bible, darkstar3 May 2012 #3
Pope Julius III is down with it. n/t dimbear May 2012 #4

darkstar3

(8,763 posts)
3. Well, after all, there were homosexual relationships in the bible,
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:05 PM
May 2012

and they were even touted as some of the most exemplar and foundational friendships around. David/Jonathan and Ruth/Naomi come to mind...

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