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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:59 AM Mar 2018

Faith-Based 'I Can Only Imagine' Soars With $17.1 Million Launch

Source: Variety, by Dave McNary

Roadside Attractions-Lionsgate’s faith-based “I Can Only Imagine” has crushed early box office forecasts with a surprisingly strong $17.1 million at 1,629 locations in North America.

Recent estimates for “I Can Only Imagine” had been in the $2 million-$8 million range. It rang up the top per-site average by far among this weekend’s wide release movies with $10,476, and it notched an A+ CinemaScore among patrons.

Budgeted at just $7 million, “I Can Only Imagine” tells the story of Bart Millard, the leader of Christian rock group MercyMe, and his conception of “I Can Only Imagine,” the best-selling Christian single of all time. J. Michael Finley stars as Millard with Dennis Quaid as his father in the film from directors Andrew Erwin and Jon Erwin, who helmed 2015’s “Woodlawn” and 2014 “Mom’s Night Out.”

The pre-Easter corridor is often used to launch faith-based films. Sony will open “Paul, Apostle of Christ” on March 23, while Pureflix’s threequel “God’s Not Dead: A Light in Darkness” will debut March 30, the start of Easter weekend. The first two “God’s Not Dead” movies grossed a total of $81.5 million. Lionsgate’s “The Shack” was the top faith-themed film of 2017, with $57 million at the domestic box office after its March 3 debut.

More at: http://variety.com/2018/film/news/i-can-only-imagine-box-office-faith-based-film-1202729700/


Film Review: ‘I Can Only Imagine’

Fans of the title song already know how “I Can Only Imagine” turns out — that is, what happens once MercyMe front man Bart Millard writes the lyrics to the track that will launch their debut album to triple-platinum status. But even newbies (such as this critic) may be impressed to learn how Millard (embodied by musical theater actor J. Michael Finley) managed to give so many Christians the words to express a love they find more powerful than any earthly romance: the anticipation they feel for the day when they will get to meet their heavenly father.







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Faith-Based 'I Can Only Imagine' Soars With $17.1 Million Launch (Original Post) yallerdawg Mar 2018 OP
WTF? TheMastersNemesis Mar 2018 #1
I do love seeing people making money off Jesus.... nt ExciteBike66 Mar 2018 #2
It's not all about money. yallerdawg Mar 2018 #3
Well of course, that's how they make the money! ExciteBike66 Mar 2018 #4
Of course it's all about money. MineralMan Mar 2018 #6
Yes. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #76
and that's true for the Religion Industry itsrobert Apr 2018 #51
Oh, good... Another God's Not Dead movie TlalocW Mar 2018 #5
Thanks for that - I needed the laugh rurallib Apr 2018 #64
Do Christianity is a death cult. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #7
*yawn* opiate69 Mar 2018 #8
Religion relies on the imagination, fantasy, illusions. Bretton Garcia Mar 2018 #9
We've seen this before edhopper Mar 2018 #10
Yeah, it has a big opening weekend, and then nothing. dawg day Mar 2018 #32
Religion as lottery Cartoonist Mar 2018 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 2018 #26
The same negative comments by the same small crowd. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #12
Of course, your fan club is much, much bigger. Mariana Mar 2018 #13
See #12 guillaumeb Mar 2018 #14
And the same non-replies by the same small crowd Lordquinton Mar 2018 #15
What makes it a conservative movie? eom guillaumeb Mar 2018 #16
What makes it not? eom Lordquinton Mar 2018 #17
"And the same non-replies by the same small crowd." yallerdawg Mar 2018 #18
Yea, it is Lordquinton Mar 2018 #19
Well, when one simply MUST criticize, guillaumeb Mar 2018 #21
And you still can't answer the question Lordquinton Mar 2018 #23
Who has had a hidden post? yallerdawg Mar 2018 #24
You care to answer the question? Lordquinton Mar 2018 #25
Devastating!!! guillaumeb Mar 2018 #20
See post #15 Lordquinton Mar 2018 #22
So I googled "I can only imagine conservative values" (which, I know it's hard to Google) Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #41
I haven't seen the movie, but does anything about the trailers Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #40
A refreshingly honest title. LSFL Mar 2018 #27
From 'Variety' today: yallerdawg Mar 2018 #28
All religions are but warped expressions of the emotion/feeling of humility. Comatose Sphagetti Mar 2018 #29
Humility... yallerdawg Mar 2018 #30
Here's a religious movie... mbusby Mar 2018 #31
"The Handmaid's Tale" is a dystopian fiction and a cautionary warning. yallerdawg Mar 2018 #33
"under a fundamentalist THEOCRATIC dictatorship" progressoid Apr 2018 #38
I don't know of any liberal progressive Christians Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #42
I'm not religious, but there are a lot of liberal minded AJT Mar 2018 #34
What exactly, though, is the conflict in the movie? TlalocW Mar 2018 #35
It's about grace and redemption and hope. yallerdawg Mar 2018 #36
Not because of the religious message, but Christian rock is shitty music. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #43
U2 made a career out of it. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #48
So, yeah, the members of U2 are Christians Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #50
We all derive our values from somewhere. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #54
About that U2 comment... Lordquinton Apr 2018 #73
Actually, no Cartoonist Apr 2018 #56
Right. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #57
I applaud them Cartoonist Apr 2018 #59
Good for you! yallerdawg Apr 2018 #61
Shalom Cartoonist Apr 2018 #63
Everyone has their priorities. Mariana Apr 2018 #68
So Jesus follows them. Cartoonist Apr 2018 #69
What's the source on that claim? Lordquinton Apr 2018 #71
UPDATE: Erwin Brothers film tops $68 million, rises to No. 6 box office draw for 2018 yallerdawg Apr 2018 #37
Why are we reporting about conservative movies again? Lordquinton Apr 2018 #39
Because GOOD NEWS Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #44
I get it. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #46
I get it. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #47
"Faith-based themes" are not "conservative" movies. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #62
Still no real answer to the right wing media outlets pushing this movie Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #66
You really seem to have a problem Mariana Apr 2018 #70
I haven't seen anyone anywhere classify this as a "conservative" movie. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #45
Wish to comment on this? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #49
Like you, they trigger on "religion" and "faith." yallerdawg Apr 2018 #52
Couple things Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #55
One thing fairly consistent about "conservative" sites: yallerdawg Apr 2018 #58
So that's a "no" on any poll to support the vast majority of christians are progressive? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #65
Just saying "faith" doesn't mean it's not Lordquinton Apr 2018 #72
Look nil desperandum Apr 2018 #53
I don't consider Fox News a reliable source of any kind. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #60
Give me one example (not this film) where they have supported a film with progressive values. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #67
I also asked for one example from non-theists here. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #74
Well, good for you. I don't know what you are talking about. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #75
"I can only imagine..." Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #77
Hi yallerdawg - my wife actually saw this the other day (with my mother-in-law) Pendrench Apr 2018 #78
There is a G rated movie audience out there... yallerdawg Apr 2018 #79
Agreed Pendrench Apr 2018 #80

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
6. Of course it's all about money.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:47 PM
Mar 2018
Black Panther also gave people what they wanted and will have billions in ticket sales.

This movie? Not nearly so much. These religion based movies rarely are hits. I've seen the TV trailers. I won't be attending.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
76. Yes.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:36 AM
Apr 2018

Movies for churches to show like the "Passion of the Christ" etc. They love to talk about how much they love...then support dt. Sorry. It's way past time to call out religio-hypocrites and their dual behavior. They are a dying breed and this is just for show that people want to see these films like they do other "block-busters".
Why are X-tians always enamored by good(?) religious flicks, and then go shoot a box of shells, or watch fox all day? It's old old old.

Voltaire2

(12,958 posts)
7. Do Christianity is a death cult.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:51 PM
Mar 2018

the anticipation they feel for the day when they will get to meet their heavenly father.


edhopper

(33,479 posts)
10. We've seen this before
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 11:06 AM
Mar 2018

they reach out to churches and the churches make it a Christian obligation to see the movie.
They want to "show" those Hollywood heathens that a movie about "good news" can make money.

It is a great pr campaign and the funny thing is that it's Hollywood playing them.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
32. Yeah, it has a big opening weekend, and then nothing.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:52 PM
Mar 2018

It sounds really boring, but I do like Dennis Quaid.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
11. Religion as lottery
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 08:10 AM
Mar 2018

I get it now. I work in a store that sells lottery tickets. Even though the odds are steep, people like to dream of a better life. The lottery is a ticket to that dream.

I can only imagine what it would be like to be rich. Believers can only imagine a life in Heaven. They all think they have the winning ticket.

Response to Cartoonist (Reply #11)

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
13. Of course, your fan club is much, much bigger.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:57 PM
Mar 2018

I hope the backlog of numerous personal messages isn't too overwhelming. I'm sure they missed you terribly.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
15. And the same non-replies by the same small crowd
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 04:38 PM
Mar 2018

Promoting a conservative movie on a progressive site, somehow it's expected these days.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
21. Well, when one simply MUST criticize,
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:02 PM
Mar 2018

it is necessary to find what looks like a reason for the criticism.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
23. And you still can't answer the question
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:09 PM
Mar 2018

You never answer questions. You go out getting atheists hidden posts and sling underhanded insults to avoid questions. What is the reason you refuse to engage in discussion?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
25. You care to answer the question?
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:25 PM
Mar 2018

Or is it too scary for you and you have to continue the train of insults and deflections?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
22. See post #15
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:08 PM
Mar 2018

and add this to the list of why discussion can't happen: because theists don't want discussion, they want submission and humiliation.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
41. So I googled "I can only imagine conservative values" (which, I know it's hard to Google)
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:01 AM
Apr 2018

Take a look at the list of progressive sites touting this film.

I mean Conservative Book Club, Fox News, and barbwire all love it. I'm sure that they would have no problems telling people to go see a movie that has solid progressive values in it.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
40. I haven't seen the movie, but does anything about the trailers
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:57 AM
Apr 2018

scream "This is going to be a good movie"? It looks like the same kind of mindless drivel that made The Notebook (see, not a religious movie as an example) a giant steaming pile of crap. My intense desire to not see this movie has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with my life being too short to watch shitty movies.

LSFL

(1,109 posts)
27. A refreshingly honest title.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:43 PM
Mar 2018

He really can only imagine. What the hell, throw in Frankenstien, Peter Pan and Superman and you will then at least have a decent lyric. I don't care what anyone believes as long as they don't try to ram it down humanity's throat. But these transparent attempts to fleece people are repulsive.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
28. From 'Variety' today:
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:44 PM
Mar 2018
Meanwhile, Roadside Attraction and Lionsgate’s faith-based “I Can Only Imagine” remains a force at No. 3 in its second weekend with $13.9 million from 2,253 sites. Based on the story behind the best-selling Christian song, “I Can Only Imagine” earned a surprisingly strong $17.1 million at the domestic box office, bringing its total up to $38 million.

http://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/pacific-rim-uprising-tops-black-panther-box-office-weekend-1202735845/

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
33. "The Handmaid's Tale" is a dystopian fiction and a cautionary warning.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:56 PM
Mar 2018

I don't know of any liberal progressive Christians who would consider this a "religious" movie.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
42. I don't know of any liberal progressive Christians
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:02 AM
Apr 2018

that should like the nonsense that is clearly in I Can Only Imagine.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
34. I'm not religious, but there are a lot of liberal minded
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 06:02 PM
Mar 2018

religious people and if this movie is one of hope and love than more power to it.

TlalocW

(15,374 posts)
35. What exactly, though, is the conflict in the movie?
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 07:06 PM
Mar 2018

In God's Not Dead, it's a God-hating philosophy professor who doesn't understand philosophy, strawman arguments, logical fallacies, etc. tryin' to keep a God-loving student down. Was MercyMe, a Christian rock band, facing opposition from their Christian music label not to write the song, but being the outspoken, God-loving rebel that he is, Bart went ahead and WROTE THAT SONG? At the end, did we learn that shadowy influences in the Christian Rock business, with the Newsboys at the head of it, were behind the opposition all along?

TlalocW

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
36. It's about grace and redemption and hope.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 07:15 PM
Mar 2018

Its a positive, uplifting movie about the backstory of the number one Christian song of all time.

Yes. There are popular, entertaining movies like that!

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
43. Not because of the religious message, but Christian rock is shitty music.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:03 AM
Apr 2018

Anybody worth a shit is not going to do Christian rock. They make more money not in Christian rock.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
50. So, yeah, the members of U2 are Christians
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:15 AM
Apr 2018

And they include some things in there music, but they are not a Christian rock band. Hemingway included a lot of Christ references in Old Man and the Sea. Does that make Papa a Christian author? Because he might have argued with that. Especially when he had a load on.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
54. We all derive our values from somewhere.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:26 AM
Apr 2018

We don't have to identify the source to live by them and get the message out.

Jesus never said he was a Christian, either.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
73. About that U2 comment...
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 06:09 PM
Apr 2018
Shannon’s gift of an Amy Grant tape quietly turns him toward Christian music. Those insufficient semi-Christians in U2 never darken his Walkman again. Bart’s transition to faith music seems like an important one, so naturally the movie glosses it over as if it’s simply what happens when any thinking kid hears Amy Grant.
https://www.avclub.com/i-can-only-imagine-devoting-an-entire-movie-to-one-bad-1823821759


Hawkward...

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
56. Actually, no
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:28 AM
Apr 2018

Early in their career, they made a choice, either be a Christian rock band, or not. They chose not.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
57. Right.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:33 AM
Apr 2018

Good thing they abandoned Christian messaging and values!

Look at their songs and lives!

I'll have you condemning, demonizing and vilifying U2 before you know it!

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
59. I applaud them
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:43 AM
Apr 2018

From Wikipedia

Adding to this period of self-doubt, Bono's, the Edge's, and Mullen's involvement in a Charismatic Christian group in Dublin called the "Shalom Fellowship" led them to question the relationship between their religious faith and the lifestyle of a rock band. Bono and the Edge considered quitting the band due to their perceived spiritual conflicts before deciding to leave Shalom instead.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
68. Everyone has their priorities.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 01:49 PM
Apr 2018

Millions of Christians do the exact same thing, when the teachings of their particular church conflict with something they want to do. They hunt around and find a flavor of Christianity that permits whatever it is they want to do that's more important to them than their religion. If no such denomination exists, they just make up a new one.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
71. What's the source on that claim?
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 05:56 PM
Apr 2018

#1 Christian song of all time?

Follow up, if you consider this song to be #1 then you consider it better than literally any of U2's songs?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
37. UPDATE: Erwin Brothers film tops $68 million, rises to No. 6 box office draw for 2018
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 03:56 PM
Apr 2018
For all those who said it would be a one-off!


"I Can Only Imagine," directed by the Birmingham-based Erwin Brothers, makers of Christian feature films, has risen to No. 6 on the list of top-grossing movies of the year.

*****

The movie had another strong week at the box office and has taken in $68,528,313 so far since its March 16 release, according to boxofficemojo.com.

*****

On the year, "I Can Only Imagine" trails only "Black Panther," "Peter Rabbit," "Fifty Shades Freed," "Ready Player One," and "A Wrinkle in Time."

It now ranks as the sixth-highest grossing Christian movie of all-time, trailing only "The Passion of the Christ," the three "Chronicles of Narnia" movies, and "Heaven is Real."

*****

http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2018/04/erwin_brothers_film_tops_68_mi.html

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
47. I get it.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:12 AM
Apr 2018

Avoid actually discussing something and toss out unrelated one-liners.

Care to discuss why you are posting positive OPs about conservative movies?

I mean, if I started a "The Pope fights against abortion rights" OP and then people said "Screw that guy" should I just answer with "11th Commandment" because, apparently, saying anything negative against shitty conservative religious movies is not allowed on DU anymore.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
62. "Faith-based themes" are not "conservative" movies.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:54 AM
Apr 2018

You can try to equate "religion" and "conservatism" all you want - it just ain't so!

We are a "Big Tent" Party. I decry any attempts to make it smaller with blanket condemnations.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
66. Still no real answer to the right wing media outlets pushing this movie
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 12:15 PM
Apr 2018

Because we all know they actively push progressive movies and don't have a cow over them.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
70. You really seem to have a problem
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 02:35 PM
Apr 2018

with the fact that people who disagree with you are allowed to post here. There are so many places available to you where you don't have to tolerate that, including several groups on DU, but you whine and whine and whine again because this one group permits it.



This "commandment" actual exists, as much as you may not like it:

Discuss religious and theological issues. All relevant topics are permitted. Believers, non-believers, and everyone in-between are welcome.







yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
45. I haven't seen anyone anywhere classify this as a "conservative" movie.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:07 AM
Apr 2018

Except here in Religion group.

Critics Consensus: I Can Only Imagine's message will have the most impact among Christian audiences, but overall, its performances and storytelling represent a notable evolution in faith-based cinema.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_can_only_imagine_2018

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
52. Like you, they trigger on "religion" and "faith."
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:22 AM
Apr 2018

That does not define liberal progressive Democratic Christians - which is, by the way, the vast majority of Democrats.

This movie is about Good Things in Christianity, healing, grace and forgiveness.

Are you suggesting these are not things we value?

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
55. Couple things
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:28 AM
Apr 2018

You have any survey of any merit to back the claim that the "vast majority of Democrats" are "liberal progressive Democratic Christians"? Because, no.

So you are saying that these conservative sites are pushing this movie because they didn't see it and just know it's about religion? Or that they saw it and didn't recognize the progressive values and were tricked to push it?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
58. One thing fairly consistent about "conservative" sites:
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:36 AM
Apr 2018

If it irritates "the left" it has to be a good thing. That is the only requirement.

When "the left" condemns "religion" we fall right into their trap.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
65. So that's a "no" on any poll to support the vast majority of christians are progressive?
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 12:14 PM
Apr 2018

And saying that we can't say anything bad about religion because it helps the right is a bullshit argument. If religion does something wrong, it's OK to criticize them.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
72. Just saying "faith" doesn't mean it's not
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 06:08 PM
Apr 2018

Looking at the director's portfolio they have a specific bent to their politics. These types of movies are typically on a conservative bent. The "message of redemption" is to let abusers back into your life and off the hook.

But, you know, ignore whatever fits your narritive and continue to alianate non-believers from the big tent. Oh, that was another question you refused to answer, isn't it?

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
53. Look
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:26 AM
Apr 2018

here, just because Fox news has an article entitled:

"‘I Can Only Imagine’ film -- It’s time for anti-Christian bigots to stop mocking and start listening"

Doesn't mean it's a conservative film, as we all know Fox news is Fair and Balanced....so why would they choose conservative films over just films with a good message for the masses?


yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
60. I don't consider Fox News a reliable source of any kind.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:44 AM
Apr 2018

Nothing they say is reliably factual.

Not a reliable source of anything.

But really good at yanking people's chains!

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
67. Give me one example (not this film) where they have supported a film with progressive values.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 12:17 PM
Apr 2018

Just one. Until then, yes, it is important and telling that they push this movie.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
75. Well, good for you. I don't know what you are talking about.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:09 AM
Apr 2018

Any chance you want to offer an example of a progressive movie Fox heralded?

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
77. "I can only imagine..."
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:50 AM
Apr 2018

Who would want to go watch a movie about a crappy song...but to each his own I guess.

Pendrench

(1,356 posts)
78. Hi yallerdawg - my wife actually saw this the other day (with my mother-in-law)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:11 PM
Apr 2018

She really enjoyed it (she is also a fan of the group MercyMe).

From what she told me, it was a pleasant movie (and of course she loved the music).

Tim

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
79. There is a G rated movie audience out there...
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:25 AM
Apr 2018

which enjoys slice-of-life inspirational - and yes, faith-based - entertainment.

If you come out of the theater feeling good about yourself and others, what is wrong with that?

Pendrench

(1,356 posts)
80. Agreed
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 07:36 PM
Apr 2018

My wife tends to like movies and books that are "life affirming" - she's also a huge fan of the Hallmark Channel (especially the Christmas shows).

Is it fluff?

Perhaps, but she has a pretty stressful job, so when she has time to unwind she likes her entertainment to be light.

Wishing you well and peace!

Tim

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