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Related: About this forumFaith-Based 'I Can Only Imagine' Soars With $17.1 Million Launch
Source: Variety, by Dave McNary
Recent estimates for I Can Only Imagine had been in the $2 million-$8 million range. It rang up the top per-site average by far among this weekends wide release movies with $10,476, and it notched an A+ CinemaScore among patrons.
More at: http://variety.com/2018/film/news/i-can-only-imagine-box-office-faith-based-film-1202729700/
Film Review: I Can Only Imagine
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)ExciteBike66
(2,297 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)The entertainment industry is also about giving people what they want.
ExciteBike66
(2,297 posts)MineralMan
(146,254 posts)This movie? Not nearly so much. These religion based movies rarely are hits. I've seen the TV trailers. I won't be attending.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Movies for churches to show like the "Passion of the Christ" etc. They love to talk about how much they love...then support dt. Sorry. It's way past time to call out religio-hypocrites and their dual behavior. They are a dying breed and this is just for show that people want to see these films like they do other "block-busters".
Why are X-tians always enamored by good(?) religious flicks, and then go shoot a box of shells, or watch fox all day? It's old old old.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)n/t
TlalocW
(15,374 posts)TlalocW
rurallib
(62,379 posts)what a hoot of a review
Voltaire2
(12,958 posts)the anticipation they feel for the day when they will get to meet their heavenly father.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)Not facts.
edhopper
(33,479 posts)they reach out to churches and the churches make it a Christian obligation to see the movie.
They want to "show" those Hollywood heathens that a movie about "good news" can make money.
It is a great pr campaign and the funny thing is that it's Hollywood playing them.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)It sounds really boring, but I do like Dennis Quaid.
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)I get it now. I work in a store that sells lottery tickets. Even though the odds are steep, people like to dream of a better life. The lottery is a ticket to that dream.
I can only imagine what it would be like to be rich. Believers can only imagine a life in Heaven. They all think they have the winning ticket.
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Not that I expected anything different.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)I hope the backlog of numerous personal messages isn't too overwhelming. I'm sure they missed you terribly.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)It still applies.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Promoting a conservative movie on a progressive site, somehow it's expected these days.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)It's a vicious circle, isn't it?
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Care to break it?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)it is necessary to find what looks like a reason for the criticism.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)You never answer questions. You go out getting atheists hidden posts and sling underhanded insults to avoid questions. What is the reason you refuse to engage in discussion?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)The only one hidden I see is GB"s!
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Or is it too scary for you and you have to continue the train of insults and deflections?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And in the face of such incredible insight, what can I say?
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)and add this to the list of why discussion can't happen: because theists don't want discussion, they want submission and humiliation.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)Take a look at the list of progressive sites touting this film.
I mean Conservative Book Club, Fox News, and barbwire all love it. I'm sure that they would have no problems telling people to go see a movie that has solid progressive values in it.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)scream "This is going to be a good movie"? It looks like the same kind of mindless drivel that made The Notebook (see, not a religious movie as an example) a giant steaming pile of crap. My intense desire to not see this movie has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with my life being too short to watch shitty movies.
LSFL
(1,109 posts)He really can only imagine. What the hell, throw in Frankenstien, Peter Pan and Superman and you will then at least have a decent lyric. I don't care what anyone believes as long as they don't try to ram it down humanity's throat. But these transparent attempts to fleece people are repulsive.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)http://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/pacific-rim-uprising-tops-black-panther-box-office-weekend-1202735845/
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)NT
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)in the face of...
Come on - you're almost there...
mbusby
(823 posts)...both the book and the movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5834204/?ref_=nv_sr_1
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)I don't know of any liberal progressive Christians who would consider this a "religious" movie.
progressoid
(49,945 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)that should like the nonsense that is clearly in I Can Only Imagine.
AJT
(5,240 posts)religious people and if this movie is one of hope and love than more power to it.
TlalocW
(15,374 posts)In God's Not Dead, it's a God-hating philosophy professor who doesn't understand philosophy, strawman arguments, logical fallacies, etc. tryin' to keep a God-loving student down. Was MercyMe, a Christian rock band, facing opposition from their Christian music label not to write the song, but being the outspoken, God-loving rebel that he is, Bart went ahead and WROTE THAT SONG? At the end, did we learn that shadowy influences in the Christian Rock business, with the Newsboys at the head of it, were behind the opposition all along?
TlalocW
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Its a positive, uplifting movie about the backstory of the number one Christian song of all time.
Yes. There are popular, entertaining movies like that!
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)Anybody worth a shit is not going to do Christian rock. They make more money not in Christian rock.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)And changed the world in the process.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)And they include some things in there music, but they are not a Christian rock band. Hemingway included a lot of Christ references in Old Man and the Sea. Does that make Papa a Christian author? Because he might have argued with that. Especially when he had a load on.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)We don't have to identify the source to live by them and get the message out.
Jesus never said he was a Christian, either.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)https://www.avclub.com/i-can-only-imagine-devoting-an-entire-movie-to-one-bad-1823821759
Hawkward...
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)Early in their career, they made a choice, either be a Christian rock band, or not. They chose not.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Good thing they abandoned Christian messaging and values!
Look at their songs and lives!
I'll have you condemning, demonizing and vilifying U2 before you know it!
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)From Wikipedia
Adding to this period of self-doubt, Bono's, the Edge's, and Mullen's involvement in a Charismatic Christian group in Dublin called the "Shalom Fellowship" led them to question the relationship between their religious faith and the lifestyle of a rock band. Bono and the Edge considered quitting the band due to their perceived spiritual conflicts before deciding to leave Shalom instead.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)You found the one thing you can hang your hat on!
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)Millions of Christians do the exact same thing, when the teachings of their particular church conflict with something they want to do. They hunt around and find a flavor of Christianity that permits whatever it is they want to do that's more important to them than their religion. If no such denomination exists, they just make up a new one.
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)Everyone has the free will to make their own denomination.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)#1 Christian song of all time?
Follow up, if you consider this song to be #1 then you consider it better than literally any of U2's songs?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)"I Can Only Imagine," directed by the Birmingham-based Erwin Brothers, makers of Christian feature films, has risen to No. 6 on the list of top-grossing movies of the year.
*****
The movie had another strong week at the box office and has taken in $68,528,313 so far since its March 16 release, according to boxofficemojo.com.
*****
On the year, "I Can Only Imagine" trails only "Black Panther," "Peter Rabbit," "Fifty Shades Freed," "Ready Player One," and "A Wrinkle in Time."
It now ranks as the sixth-highest grossing Christian movie of all-time, trailing only "The Passion of the Christ," the three "Chronicles of Narnia" movies, and "Heaven is Real."
*****
http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2018/04/erwin_brothers_film_tops_68_mi.html
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Really weird to be reading about here.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)apparently.
Maybe I accidentally logged into bizarro DU this morning.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)"Thou shalt not..."
11th Commandment.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)Avoid actually discussing something and toss out unrelated one-liners.
Care to discuss why you are posting positive OPs about conservative movies?
I mean, if I started a "The Pope fights against abortion rights" OP and then people said "Screw that guy" should I just answer with "11th Commandment" because, apparently, saying anything negative against shitty conservative religious movies is not allowed on DU anymore.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)You can try to equate "religion" and "conservatism" all you want - it just ain't so!
We are a "Big Tent" Party. I decry any attempts to make it smaller with blanket condemnations.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)Because we all know they actively push progressive movies and don't have a cow over them.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)with the fact that people who disagree with you are allowed to post here. There are so many places available to you where you don't have to tolerate that, including several groups on DU, but you whine and whine and whine again because this one group permits it.
This "commandment" actual exists, as much as you may not like it:
Discuss religious and theological issues. All relevant topics are permitted. Believers, non-believers, and everyone in-between are welcome.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Except here in Religion group.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_can_only_imagine_2018
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)That does not define liberal progressive Democratic Christians - which is, by the way, the vast majority of Democrats.
This movie is about Good Things in Christianity, healing, grace and forgiveness.
Are you suggesting these are not things we value?
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)You have any survey of any merit to back the claim that the "vast majority of Democrats" are "liberal progressive Democratic Christians"? Because, no.
So you are saying that these conservative sites are pushing this movie because they didn't see it and just know it's about religion? Or that they saw it and didn't recognize the progressive values and were tricked to push it?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)If it irritates "the left" it has to be a good thing. That is the only requirement.
When "the left" condemns "religion" we fall right into their trap.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)And saying that we can't say anything bad about religion because it helps the right is a bullshit argument. If religion does something wrong, it's OK to criticize them.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Looking at the director's portfolio they have a specific bent to their politics. These types of movies are typically on a conservative bent. The "message of redemption" is to let abusers back into your life and off the hook.
But, you know, ignore whatever fits your narritive and continue to alianate non-believers from the big tent. Oh, that was another question you refused to answer, isn't it?
nil desperandum
(654 posts)here, just because Fox news has an article entitled:
"I Can Only Imagine film -- Its time for anti-Christian bigots to stop mocking and start listening"
Doesn't mean it's a conservative film, as we all know Fox news is Fair and Balanced....so why would they choose conservative films over just films with a good message for the masses?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Nothing they say is reliably factual.
Not a reliable source of anything.
But really good at yanking people's chains!
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)Just one. Until then, yes, it is important and telling that they push this movie.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I am still waiting.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,905 posts)Any chance you want to offer an example of a progressive movie Fox heralded?
Docreed2003
(16,850 posts)Who would want to go watch a movie about a crappy song...but to each his own I guess.
Pendrench
(1,356 posts)She really enjoyed it (she is also a fan of the group MercyMe).
From what she told me, it was a pleasant movie (and of course she loved the music).
Tim
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)which enjoys slice-of-life inspirational - and yes, faith-based - entertainment.
If you come out of the theater feeling good about yourself and others, what is wrong with that?
Pendrench
(1,356 posts)My wife tends to like movies and books that are "life affirming" - she's also a huge fan of the Hallmark Channel (especially the Christmas shows).
Is it fluff?
Perhaps, but she has a pretty stressful job, so when she has time to unwind she likes her entertainment to be light.
Wishing you well and peace!
Tim