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OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts) Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:07 PM Mar 2018

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I am an agnostic.

Explain why I am wrong.

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I am an agnostic. (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2018 OP

You're not wrong. nt. Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #1

Are you sure? dchill Mar 2018 #2

You don't know whether you're wrong. That's what makes you an agnostic. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #3

I am an agnostic too marylandblue Mar 2018 #4

It Doesn't Matter Progressive2020 Mar 2018 #5

Why? nt. Mariana Mar 2018 #6

Tell me why you think edhopper Mar 2018 #7

An agnostic what? trotsky Mar 2018 #8

Except agnostic is also a noun Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #31

Some people use it that way, yes. trotsky Apr 2018 #35

Nope...just pointing out the dictionary usage... Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #36

Do you believe in God? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #9

I believe that the belief in God is something that humankind OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2018 #10

Do you believe in God? nt. Mariana Mar 2018 #11

It's a simple question. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #13

I see little evidence supporting a belief that God exists. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2018 #14

You weren't asked about evidence. Mariana Apr 2018 #16

I'm not asking about evidence. I'm asking about belief. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #18

You don't understand my point about agnosticism. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2018 #19

It sounds like you're an atheist and an agnostic. Mariana Apr 2018 #20

I understand perfectly. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #21

Maybe you are a visual learner Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #22

"there is no basis in reality to affirm such an idea" trotsky Apr 2018 #23

If you have no belief in a God edhopper Apr 2018 #17

Are you wrong? Thyla Mar 2018 #12

Exactly. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2018 #15

I just picked up my Red Phone to the Almighty and He says you are wrong. Major Nikon Apr 2018 #24

The phone is clearly blue. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #26

He also said you were wrong Major Nikon Apr 2018 #30

Okay. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #33

Wrong and right do not apply. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #25

Thanks, guill. elleng Apr 2018 #28

You are welcome. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #29

i always thought of my self as agnostic until the bush years when Ron.. samnsara Apr 2018 #27

America is a partially free country. Be whatever you want to be while you still can. democratisphere Apr 2018 #32

Everyone is. OriginalGeek Apr 2018 #34

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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)

1. You're not wrong. nt.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:10 PM

Mar 2018

dchill

(38,472 posts)

2. Are you sure?

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:19 PM

Mar 2018

IM2.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,679 posts)

3. You don't know whether you're wrong. That's what makes you an agnostic.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:19 PM

Mar 2018

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)

4. I am an agnostic too

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:21 PM

Mar 2018

Since you agree with me, you must be right.

Progressive2020

(713 posts)

5. It Doesn't Matter

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:40 PM

Mar 2018

It doesn't matter much whether you are wrong or right. What is important is your Freedom to Believe and Think what you want. Freedom of Thought, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion. Real American Values.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)

6. Why? nt.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Wed Mar 28, 2018, 12:17 AM

Mar 2018

edhopper

(33,573 posts)

7. Tell me why you think

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Wed Mar 28, 2018, 01:16 AM

Mar 2018

there could be a deity first?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

8. An agnostic what?

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:57 AM

Mar 2018

Agnostic is an adjective.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)

31. Except agnostic is also a noun

Reply to trotsky (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:54 PM

Apr 2018

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

35. Some people use it that way, yes.

Reply to Docreed2003 (Reply #31)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 08:59 AM

Apr 2018

The dictionary describes usage.

But it's also an adjective. An agnostic WHAT? Do you have an answer?

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)

36. Nope...just pointing out the dictionary usage...

Reply to trotsky (Reply #35)

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 09:52 AM

Apr 2018

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)

9. Do you believe in God?

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:17 AM

Mar 2018

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)

10. I believe that the belief in God is something that humankind

Reply to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 28, 2018, 01:00 PM

Mar 2018

has constructed to make living in this world more palatable.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)

11. Do you believe in God? nt.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 28, 2018, 01:30 PM

Mar 2018

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)

13. It's a simple question.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 28, 2018, 01:56 PM

Mar 2018

Do you, personally, believe God exists?

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)

14. I see little evidence supporting a belief that God exists.

Reply to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 07:12 PM

Apr 2018

I guess that is why I am Agnostic.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)

16. You weren't asked about evidence.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 09:46 PM

Apr 2018

You were asked about what you believe. Do you, personally, believe a god exists? It's a simple question.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)

18. I'm not asking about evidence. I'm asking about belief.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 2, 2018, 09:00 AM

Apr 2018

Do you, personally, believe a God or gods exist?

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)

19. You don't understand my point about agnosticism.

Reply to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:48 PM

Apr 2018

I don't believe in anything where there is no evidence. Sorry, a book written 2000 years ago without any cites doesn't create a foundation to have a belief. I'd like to believe but there is no basis in reality to affirm such an idea.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)

20. It sounds like you're an atheist and an agnostic.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 12:45 AM

Apr 2018

They aren't mutually exclusive. One word deals with belief and the other with knowledge, and of course those are different things. Atheism doesn't require that you must be certain. If you don't believe any gods exist, you're an atheist.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)

21. I understand perfectly.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 09:39 AM

Apr 2018

What I don't understand is why you're so afraid to call yourself an atheist. Because, definitionally, that's what you are.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,917 posts)

22. Maybe you are a visual learner

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 11:17 AM

Apr 2018

agnosticism and atheism are labels about two different things.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

23. "there is no basis in reality to affirm such an idea"

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 11:29 AM

Apr 2018

That's all it means to be an atheist. You don't accept the evidence provided.

edhopper

(33,573 posts)

17. If you have no belief in a God

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 10:05 PM

Apr 2018

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you are an atheist.
You can be agnostic as well, they are not exclusive.

Thyla

(791 posts)

12. Are you wrong?

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Wed Mar 28, 2018, 01:44 PM

Mar 2018

Well Dude, we just don't know.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)

15. Exactly.

Reply to Thyla (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 1, 2018, 09:11 PM

Apr 2018

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)

24. I just picked up my Red Phone to the Almighty and He says you are wrong.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 06:22 PM

Apr 2018

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

26. The phone is clearly blue.

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:28 PM

Apr 2018

The red phone is for another place.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)

30. He also said you were wrong

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:47 PM

Apr 2018

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

33. Okay.

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 09:32 PM

Apr 2018

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

25. Wrong and right do not apply.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:28 PM

Apr 2018

You have a belief. You made a choice. You took a position. Welcome to it.

elleng

(130,865 posts)

28. Thanks, guill.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:42 PM

Apr 2018

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

29. You are welcome.

Reply to elleng (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:43 PM

Apr 2018

samnsara

(17,622 posts)

27. i always thought of my self as agnostic until the bush years when Ron..

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:42 PM

Apr 2018

..Reagan JR did commercials for The Freedom From Religion Foundation. I have always liked him. I subscribed to the FFRF newsletter and even called their attention to some local situations. Really nice folks.

I finally came to the conclusion that I am atheist..not even agnostic. Its was like when I decided to quit being and 'I' and choose a damned party.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)

32. America is a partially free country. Be whatever you want to be while you still can.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 08:18 PM

Apr 2018

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)

34. Everyone is.

Reply to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2018, 08:09 PM

Apr 2018

Some of us also don't believe in any gods.

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