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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:49 PM Nov 2018

Defending free speech is also the best way to defend Muhammad

From the article:

…...Rather than ban speech critical of Muhammad, Muslims should meet arguments with arguments and silence claims with counterclaims. Advocating for free speech and critical thinking, not fighting against them, is what gives Muslims the greatest chance of defending Islam.


To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2018/11/06/defending-free-speech-is-also-the-best-way-to-defend-muhammad/
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Defending free speech is also the best way to defend Muhammad (Original Post) guillaumeb Nov 2018 OP
I read the article. Your excerpt does not reflect MineralMan Nov 2018 #1
Interesting that this is a conversation that needs to happen. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #2
Agreed. But it obviously does. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #5
Yes, the Atheist Bible clearly prohibits criticism of the one true not faith. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #7
No, the actions of the atheist leaders guillaumeb Nov 2018 #8
Who is my leader? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #9
The do discuss religion in China edhopper Nov 2018 #10
Yes, while they are running re-education camps for theists. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #11
Actually, it doesn't Cartoonist Nov 2018 #3
Oddly enough, my freedom of speech is often MineralMan Nov 2018 #4
Other ways of defending religious nonsense: Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #6

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
1. I read the article. Your excerpt does not reflect
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:10 AM
Nov 2018

the actual content of the article, which discussed a ruling of the European Court of Human Rights. Since you are allowed to include up to four paragraphs of an article in your excerpt, you could make your post much more informative by doing so.

It takes no more work to include more of an article, so I'm at a loss to understand why you quote material that doesn't really reflect the actual topic in the article.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. Agreed. But it obviously does.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:20 PM
Nov 2018

Unfortunately, it cannot happen in countries such as China and N. Korea as well.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
10. The do discuss religion in China
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:03 AM
Nov 2018
https://www.internations.org/china-expats/guide/29464-culture-shopping-recreation/chinese-ethnic-groups-17524/religion-in-china-2



As a Communist country, China has no official religion. That being said, the government does officially recognize five religions: Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Catholicism, and Protestantism. As of the last official census in 2010, 52.2% of the population said they were unaffiliated with any religion. The other circa 48% of the population is split between the officially recognized religions, as well as folk religions and very small populations of Jewish and Hindu believers.


They also talk about it in the largely secular parts of Europe.

But in the more religious countries, especially in Islam....


And you know N. Korea has NOTHING to do with atheism and everything to do with a cult like dictator.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
3. Actually, it doesn't
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:30 PM
Nov 2018

That's why there are blasphemy laws. Religion can not stand up to scrutiny. Proof of that is the trend away from religion in the information age.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
4. Oddly enough, my freedom of speech is often
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:17 PM
Nov 2018

directed at debunking religion. So, how is that going to help Islam or Christianity? I doubt that's what the writer was suggesting.

You still ignored the fact that the court discussed in the article essentially ruled in the opposite direction, toward restricting free speech.

The defenders of Muhhamad wouldn't like anything I wrote. They're not interested in my free speech; only theirs.

I have no idea what interests you, though. You certainly criticize my use of free speech often enough. Maybe you align with that weird court.

Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
6. Other ways of defending religious nonsense:
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:10 AM
Nov 2018

Send a squad of heavily armed thugs to slaughter the blasphemers.

Another way is to criminalize blasphemy.

It is not clear method is most effective.

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