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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:59 AM Aug 2012

Catholic Priest rapes another child. When are people going to stop supporting this church?

Police: Woodburn priest chased boy down street after abuse

It was close to midnight Sunday when Woodburn resident James Curths saw the 12-year-old boy running down the street toward him. Curths said the child, panting and out of breath, begged for help, telling him a man was chasing him.

Moments later, a man rounded the corner wearing only underwear. He stood a short distance away, trying to wave the boy over as Curths and his sister-in-law prepared to drive the boy to relatives.

"He was staring at us," said Heather Rodriguez, 28, Curths' sister-in-law, who was also outside. "Then he stood there with his hands on his hips like, 'You're really not going to give him to me?'"

Rodriguez and Curths, 35, told the man they were calling the police. Only then, they said, did the man jog away.

The man who chased after the boy that night, Woodburn police say, was the Rev. Angel Armando Perez, the parish priest at St. Luke Catholic Church in Woodburn. Early Monday, the boy gave police a detailed account of the alleged sex abuse he said occurred at Perez's home, leading to Perez's arrest later Monday.

(more at link)

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/08/police_woodburn_priest_chased.html


Just what is it about this church that makes it's leaders such pedophiles? How much more abuse do kids have to take in these institutions before people stop giving their time, money, and support to these same institutions that hide and protect (this guy isn't going to hide, because he got caught by civilians) pedophile priests and espouse institutional misogyny?
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Catholic Priest rapes another child. When are people going to stop supporting this church? (Original Post) cleanhippie Aug 2012 OP
When you try to suppress a very natural urge, shit happens Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #1
Celibacy does not cause pedophilia. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #3
I never said it did Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #7
Can you support that statement or is it just your opinion. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #28
You've got it backwards Bradical79 Aug 2012 #33
Mostly opinion based on the understanding that not all pedophiles are celibate. Also, not all GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #54
No, but pedophiles and other sexual deviants Warpy Aug 2012 #32
They absolutely do. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #55
No it does not. But sometimes disturbed people take shelter pnwmom Aug 2012 #80
...or maybe pedophile rapists seek out a career in the preisthood KurtNYC Aug 2012 #6
It could be that- digonswine Aug 2012 #61
Fucking kids is a 'natural urge'?? Prove it. MichiganVote Aug 2012 #76
fucking kids is the shit that happens Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #78
Thanks. I'm now sure you know nothing whatever about sexaul abuse. MichiganVote Aug 2012 #84
and now you have proven that you know nothing about me Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #87
Pedophiles go where the children are. Churches. Schools. Youth organizations and sports clubs. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #2
They seem to go where the danger is minimized. In the case of the Catholic Church... cleanhippie Aug 2012 #4
Yes, they absolutely go where it is easiest. Places that have tighter GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #53
The huge difference is Rob H. Aug 2012 #5
Yes, I do agree that it's very wrong that they protect the priests. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #20
As soon as you demonstrate it's unique to this institution. rug Aug 2012 #8
As soon as you stop defending it. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #9
Are you saying I defend child abuse? rug Aug 2012 #10
Is that what you think I'm saying? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #11
Backpedal. rug Aug 2012 #12
Did you make a trip to the farm this morning? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #15
Apparently. rug Aug 2012 #17
Evidently. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #18
Now I'm completely certain. rug Aug 2012 #19
apparently. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #21
It sure sounds like that is what he's saying. Leontius Aug 2012 #23
Some things are just too hard to do. rug Aug 2012 #24
No, I'm just not going to give your baseless allegation any merit. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #30
Speaking of baseless allegations . . . . rug Aug 2012 #35
Yes, your allegation was baseless. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #38
I dunno, I thought it was obvious he was referring to the "institution" and not the "child abuse." eqfan592 Aug 2012 #57
If that is the case then why can't he simply say Leontius Aug 2012 #65
He said it was a baseless accusation, and he asked rug if that's what he really thought he meant. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #68
You seem to be defending an organization that has spent considerable effort Bradical79 Aug 2012 #36
"Seem"? Why don't you just spell that out? rug Aug 2012 #37
I will do that for you. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #39
Thanks! Bradical79 Aug 2012 #42
You have your chance to answer below. rug Aug 2012 #44
I've been very clear. It's your comprehension that seems to be the problem. Bradical79 Aug 2012 #46
No you weren't. And now your reason is clear. rug Aug 2012 #48
Forceful and articulate? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #62
Oh, that's fun. Here's one for you. rug Aug 2012 #43
Because I'm allowing that I may have misread your intentions. Bradical79 Aug 2012 #40
Let's see how cryptic you're being. rug Aug 2012 #41
Yes, I think all Catholics should leave the church. Bradical79 Aug 2012 #45
There it is. rug Aug 2012 #47
Jury must have realized it wasn't bigoted, though Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #50
It is bigoted to say one cannot be Catholic without supporting covering up pedophiles. rug Aug 2012 #52
Humblebum, is that you? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #64
I understand it quite well. rug Aug 2012 #66
Humblebum, is that you? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #74
Notice how rug failed to answer your question? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #63
Do you see a question? rug Aug 2012 #67
My wife left the catholic church because of the coverups... rexcat Aug 2012 #69
What people? rug Aug 2012 #70
On a personal level... rexcat Aug 2012 #71
There are pedophiles in every segment of society. pnwmom Aug 2012 #81
Everybody does it? trotsky Aug 2012 #13
Don't put quotes around words you make up. rug Aug 2012 #14
It's not your quote, it's a common expression. trotsky Aug 2012 #16
Evasion. Nothing new to see here. mr blur Aug 2012 #22
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. rug Aug 2012 #25
Ah, the old skepticscott Aug 2012 #56
You're late to the party. rug Aug 2012 #59
Nobody said that ........ why not start with the Catholic Church?? Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #72
Why not start with Penn State? After we shut it down, pnwmom Aug 2012 #82
Sick SOBs lsewpershad Aug 2012 #26
Apparently the Catholic Church and all other Christian religions are untouchable. Lint Head Aug 2012 #27
Not so untouchable any more ..... hedgehog Aug 2012 #29
That's one. Lint Head Aug 2012 #49
Obviously Catholic priests are not the only people who abuse children. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #31
This is it, precisely. trotsky Aug 2012 #73
Too bad we can't close them down Politicalboi Aug 2012 #34
Priests are taught in seminary that there is one set of rules for them... GodlessBiker Aug 2012 #51
What does it say about someone skepticscott Aug 2012 #58
GOOGLE NEWS SEARCH TERMS: Catholic Priest OR Bishop child-abuse OR sexual-abuse _Liann_ Aug 2012 #60
And if you google "minister" and "child abuse" you get more than 8 million hits. pnwmom Aug 2012 #83
I ask myself and others the same question EvilAL Aug 2012 #75
Churches have committed atrocities since the beginning of recorded time. Shadowflash Aug 2012 #77
When are we going to stop supporting universities pnwmom Aug 2012 #79
Hmmmm.. maybe when EvilAL Aug 2012 #85
That is essentially what Penn State was doing, EvilAL. pnwmom Aug 2012 #86
In that case, EvilAL Aug 2012 #89
Maybe not another coach or teacher, but maybe pnwmom Aug 2012 #90
Well then, EvilAL Aug 2012 #91
Support it how? Do we allow it have a tax-exempt status? That's a political choice, not ours. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #88

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
7. I never said it did
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:43 AM
Aug 2012

All I said was when you try to suppress a very natural urge shit happens

When you suppress something anything can happen. They have just taken this urge and corrupted it

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
28. Can you support that statement or is it just your opinion.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:28 PM
Aug 2012

I'm not trying to give you a hard time or start a war but can you cite any facts or studies which support your assertion?

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
33. You've got it backwards
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:44 PM
Aug 2012

It's the suggestion that celibacy leads to pedophilia that needs backed up here.
I think it's more reasonable to assume that these guys were pedophiles to begin with and surrounding themselves with young boys was either too big of a temptation for someone with their mental sickness (or a more sinister motivation could be that they purposefully did this to gain access to young boys on a regular basis). Anyway, pedophilia seems to be either something inborn or biological or the result of psychological damage early in life, so it's doubtful that the vow of celibacy has anything to do with whether or not a pedophile is going to rape a child.

Not a scientific paper, but a nice brief summary of the sickness:
http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Pedophilia.html#b

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
54. Mostly opinion based on the understanding that not all pedophiles are celibate. Also, not all
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:25 PM
Aug 2012

celibate people commit acts of pedophilia.

Is it possible that a man who never had the desire to be sexually involved with a child entered the church, took the vow of celibacy, and then developed a desire to hurt children? Maybe. But I maintain that it doesn't make sense that this represents the majority of pedophiles in the church. We know from studying pedophiles, and from interviews with them, that they seek out places where they can become involved with children. These are places where they can gain status as a trusted person whom adults would leave their child in their care. That indicates that they were already drawn to children before they took the vow. (In fact, there are many cases where husbands have a sex life with their wives but still go on to hurt their children or friends of their kids. )

Editing because I forgot to qualify the "mostly opinion." I have been through a layperson's Safe Church training which teaches people where pedophiles look for kids, how they get close to them and groom them, what behaviors are red flags and so forth. It included a video featuring two men discussing how they managed to get kids, and several survivors sharing their own stories. A heartbreaking and anger-inducing seminar, to be sure. :cry

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
32. No, but pedophiles and other sexual deviants
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:42 PM
Aug 2012

love to hide behind the cross.

Other churches have also produced scum like this among their clergy. The difference is that they didn't have the Vatican to cover it up, bribe people to stay quiet, and move the perps around.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
80. No it does not. But sometimes disturbed people take shelter
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:57 PM
Aug 2012

within a group they hope will contain their baser tendencies.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. ...or maybe pedophile rapists seek out a career in the preisthood
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:30 AM
Aug 2012

to get access to children, free healthcare, free housing and free lawyers when they eventually need them.

The dioceses in Portland spent $70 million dollars raping children and they plan to continue. Disgusting and there is no excuse for it.

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
61. It could be that-
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:10 PM
Aug 2012

some young men recognize that they have sexual feelings toward children and feel a great amount of guilt. This guilt impels them to seek a future where sexuality and sex is suppressed-a form of avoidance. When they get done with studies and have to go about the duties of a priest, they start to live a life. This urge-suppressed in the past, presents itself again. Now they are in a position of power and come in contact with many kids-who they are sexually attracted to-through no fault of their own(the feelings-NOT the actions). They, then, act on these urges, becoming the monsters we abhor.

Just an idea.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
4. They seem to go where the danger is minimized. In the case of the Catholic Church...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:21 AM
Aug 2012

where they have been hiding and protecting child rapers for DECADES, if not centuries, it certainly has made it an institution that is very attractive to that type.

What I don't get is how followers of this church's teachings have not risen up in protest over this issue. Add in the institutionalized misogyny, and one would think you have a recipe for revolution and change. But no, they just keep coming back every Sunday, filling the coffers, pretending everything is just fine...

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
53. Yes, they absolutely go where it is easiest. Places that have tighter
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:03 PM
Aug 2012

restrictions on who can participate and which have some sort of safety training in place seem to be less likely to be infiltrated. (Although even that can be circumvented.)

Rob H.

(5,349 posts)
5. The huge difference is
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:26 AM
Aug 2012

that in schools, youth organizations and sports clubs, when a person sexually abuses children and is identified, he generally gets arrested and sent to jail. Priests (and to be fair, there have been child sex abuse scandals involving Baptist ministers, as well) get moved to another parish, the incident(s) is kept secret, and he's able to abuse again.

Edited for clarity.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
9. As soon as you stop defending it.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:03 PM
Aug 2012

Notice how he evades making any comment on the topic at hand, which is yet ANOTHER child-raping priest.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
15. Did you make a trip to the farm this morning?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:14 PM
Aug 2012

Because the only bullshit here is found within posts with your name attached to them.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
23. It sure sounds like that is what he's saying.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:57 PM
Aug 2012

Of course he has the chance here to say no he does not say, or believe, that you defend child abuse. If he in fact does not believe that you do defend child abuse he should clearly state it. If he can't find the words maybe this will help, " No rug I do not believe that you defend child abuse."

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
57. I dunno, I thought it was obvious he was referring to the "institution" and not the "child abuse."
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:43 PM
Aug 2012

rug is a vocal defender of the "institution" in this case.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
65. If that is the case then why can't he simply say
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:50 PM
Aug 2012

"rug I don't think you defend child abuse." If he can't say that then it would seem that he does believe that rug defends child abuse and not just the RCC. Very easy to make it plain what he thinks why is he afraid to do so.

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
68. He said it was a baseless accusation, and he asked rug if that's what he really thought he meant.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:03 PM
Aug 2012

As for the rest, I can see the fun to be had in getting rugs goat a little bit as well, tho I'm sure rug doesn't see it that way, and had an entirely different motive in leaping to the conclusion he did.

Like I said, the insinuation was obvious to me, given rugs history. To try and say otherwise is, at best, a real stretch.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
36. You seem to be defending an organization that has spent considerable effort
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:48 PM
Aug 2012

towards hiding child abusers and making sure they were not prosecuted for their crimes. Making the claim that this problem is not unique to the Catholic Church really does nothing to address the Church itself or the original question.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
39. I will do that for you.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:52 PM
Aug 2012

seem  
/sēm/
Verb
Give the impression or sensation of being something or having a particular quality: "Dawn seemed annoyed".
Used to make a statement or description of one's thoughts, feelings, or actions less assertive or forceful.
Synonyms
appear - look - sound

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
42. Thanks!
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:58 PM
Aug 2012

Not sure if English is rug's primary language (there are plenty of international members here), but I thought I was fairly clear. If Rug had been more forceful and articulate in his/her opinion I probably would not have used the word "seem". :-P

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
48. No you weren't. And now your reason is clear.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:18 PM
Aug 2012

It takes very little to comprehend your statement.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
43. Oh, that's fun. Here's one for you.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:59 PM
Aug 2012

in·sin·u·ate/inˈsinyooˌāt/

Verb:

1.Suggest or hint (something negative) in an indirect and unpleasant way.
2.Maneuver oneself into (a position of favor or office) by subtle manipulation: "she insinuated herself into management".


 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
40. Because I'm allowing that I may have misread your intentions.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:53 PM
Aug 2012

But the way you responding, you are defending the idea of supporting an organization that has actively covered up child abuse by its employees at very high levels. I'm not the one being cryptic here.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
41. Let's see how cryptic you're being.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:57 PM
Aug 2012

Are you saying no one should belong to the Catholic Church?

If you have something else in mind, let's hear it.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
45. Yes, I think all Catholics should leave the church.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:06 PM
Aug 2012

I don't think I was being very cryptic of that opinion at all, lol. And I think the pedophilia issue is one good reason to leave. In fact, that's what I thought the OP was basically asking too, whether there is any good reason to support the church in light of the pedophilia scandals. And I don't know about the OP, but I'm perfectly fine with any other religious organization being added to the Catholic Church if you are aware for similar large scale pedophilia problems. The Catholic Church is the only other one I can think of though at the moment.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
50. Jury must have realized it wasn't bigoted, though
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:44 PM
Aug 2012

How is it bigoted to say that one should not support an organization that hides and enables pedophiles?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
52. It is bigoted to say one cannot be Catholic without supporting covering up pedophiles.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:51 PM
Aug 2012

It's also a stupid thing to say.

Why, did you alert or are you just obsessing about DU3?

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
64. Humblebum, is that you?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:43 PM
Aug 2012

You both appear to not fully understand the meaning of that word. Unless youre one and the same. You're not are you? No need to be cryptic, just a yes or no will do.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
66. I understand it quite well.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:54 PM
Aug 2012

BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Equating all members of the Catholic Church with complicity in pedophilia is . . . what?

Come on, it's your favorite topic. Surely you can defend your own opinions and prejudices.

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
69. My wife left the catholic church because of the coverups...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:24 PM
Aug 2012

within the hierarchy of the church. She found it impossible to support an organization that allowed the rape of children.

It appears some people can over look the rape of children and continue to support the catholic church. I say good for them!

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
71. On a personal level...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:36 PM
Aug 2012

I can say my father-in-law. He knew of a priest who was assigned to their parish but the word had gotten to them from the previous parish were this pervert had been assigned. No one in the parish did anything about this person other than keep the boys away from him. Crimes had been committed by this priest and no one was willing to do anything about it. I am also sure there are many catholics today who would and have look the other way.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
81. There are pedophiles in every segment of society.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:58 PM
Aug 2012

Catholicism is the largest single denomination of Christians, so they will produce a larger number (but not proportion) of pedophiles.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
13. Everybody does it?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:08 PM
Aug 2012

That's your excuse?

Pedophiles are indeed found elsewhere - one might say, sadly, everywhere.

What is NOT found everywhere is the institutionalized protection, support, and system of providing offenders with access to fresh victims.

The lone recent secular example - Penn State - demonstrates perfectly how there are consequences for institutions other than your church.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
16. It's not your quote, it's a common expression.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:16 PM
Aug 2012

And your lack of response to the issue is what's unsurprising.

You may resume your attacks on me now. Jesus will be proud of you.

Oh, and I just edited to remove the quotes so you have nothing to whine about. Will you address the content of the post now, or just hurl another insult?

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
56. Ah, the old
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:41 PM
Aug 2012

"everyone's doing it, so it's Ok" defense. Try using that argument with your local bishop when you try to convince him that it's OK to use artificial birth control.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
72. Nobody said that ........ why not start with the Catholic Church??
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:20 AM
Aug 2012

Then we can shut down the next one, and then the next one. Or should we wait until all are identified and then start shutting them down??

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
82. Why not start with Penn State? After we shut it down,
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:02 PM
Aug 2012

we can go after Syracuse and all the other universities.

lsewpershad

(2,620 posts)
26. Sick SOBs
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:27 PM
Aug 2012

Maybe that's why they became priests of the C church. Mr pope or is it"poop" where are you??????

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
27. Apparently the Catholic Church and all other Christian religions are untouchable.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:27 PM
Aug 2012

They pay no taxes and the politicians fear the believers and the masses the church leaders hold in the palm of their hands.
The fear of death and hell is a powerful weapon and the controlling entities use it well.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
29. Not so untouchable any more .....
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:36 PM
Aug 2012

"Perez was arraigned in Marion County Circuit Court on Tuesday, appearing via video from Marion County Jail, wearing a black V-neck top with his hands secured in front of his waist. He faced allegations of first-degree sexual abuse, abuse of a child in the display of sexually explicit conduct, furnishing alcohol to a minor and driving under the influence of intoxicants. "

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
31. Obviously Catholic priests are not the only people who abuse children.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aug 2012

I have no way of knowing if Catholic priests are more or less likely to be pedophiles than the clergy of other religious groups or members of other organizations. However, there is one qualitative difference. Most other religious and other organizations lack both the size and power to engage in decades long coverups of pedophilia. And this fact, I think, is what outrages people the most. We all know people will sometimes do bad things. But the Catholic church has been until recent years been quite successful in covering it up and allowing pedophiles to get away with it. In so doing they have all but institutionalized child abuse. I for one have absolutely no sympathy for them. They've made their own bed.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
73. This is it, precisely.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:21 AM
Aug 2012

But you'll notice in this very thread, the apologists for the RCC will only focus on the (correct) statement that pedophiles are found everywhere that provides access to children. Note that when your fact is pointed out (institutional coverup), the topic changes or insults are hurled ("anti-Catholic bigotry" is a common one).

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
34. Too bad we can't close them down
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:45 PM
Aug 2012

Do like the kooks do in front of abortion clinics. Make those that support the church feel intimidated, and scared to go. It needs to start somewhere. I was raised catholic, I heard the hate against gay people spewed from the alter. And our church had it's own monster who was later transferred to another church so he can continue to molest children. He was a young priest named Father Michael Wimpy. Wimpy like Popeye's friend, but in reality, wimpy as the need to abuse children. He was all the kids favorite too.

GodlessBiker

(6,314 posts)
51. Priests are taught in seminary that there is one set of rules for them...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:50 PM
Aug 2012

and another set of rules for the unwashed masses, or at least that is what the three ex-priests I know have told me, which is a small sample, I know, but it is significant that they all told me this independently.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
58. What does it say about someone
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:46 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:43 PM - Edit history (1)

when they sit at their computer all day trying to make it seem like the protection and enabling of child rape really isn't all that bad, and shouldn't be criticized at all? And about certain others here who think that attitude is so wonderfully worthy of respect that they never, EVER say a word about it or confront that kind of despicable thinking in ANY way?

_Liann_

(377 posts)
60. GOOGLE NEWS SEARCH TERMS: Catholic Priest OR Bishop child-abuse OR sexual-abuse
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 06:57 PM
Aug 2012
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pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
83. And if you google "minister" and "child abuse" you get more than 8 million hits.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:03 PM
Aug 2012

If you google "teacher" and "child abuse" you get more than 9 million hits.

If you google "Catholic priest" and "child abuse" you get more than 3 hundred thousand hits.

So?

EvilAL

(1,437 posts)
75. I ask myself and others the same question
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:43 PM
Aug 2012

every time it happens. Never get a fucking answer.
It's like they close their eyes, plug their ears and go lalalalalalalalalalalalala.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
77. Churches have committed atrocities since the beginning of recorded time.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:51 PM
Aug 2012

And many enthusiastic people have supported them through it all.

Why would they stop supporting them for doing it now?

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
79. When are we going to stop supporting universities
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:55 PM
Aug 2012

like Penn State and Syracuse?

Pedophilia is everywhere there are children and adults.

EvilAL

(1,437 posts)
85. Hmmmm.. maybe when
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:05 PM
Aug 2012

they start covering it up and moving pedophiles around to new schools without telling anyone about what happened and threatening others to keep it quiet or they'll be fired.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
86. That is essentially what Penn State was doing, EvilAL.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

Penn State knew that Sandusky was an abuser and so they gave him a nice pension plan and allowed him continued access to kids by not reporting him to the police, even though they knew he was still involved with kids at The Second Mile. It was several years after his forced retirement that they finally banned him from the campus, after he was witnessed raping a child. But they still didn't report him to the police.

EvilAL

(1,437 posts)
89. In that case,
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:43 PM
Aug 2012

everyone involved should be thrown in the slammer.
Justice will have prevailed, if it comes out that it has been going on for a long time, with multiple coaches, teachers and other schools involved in the ring and coverup, then yes, they should be shut down and anyone still supporting them should be called out on it.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
90. Maybe not another coach or teacher, but maybe
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:53 PM
Aug 2012

wealthy Penn state boosters.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/jerry-sandusky-booster-sex-abuse-private-plane_n_1772564.html


A witness interviewed by federal authorities claims convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky and a Penn State booster sexually assaulted boys on a private plane, according to an exclusive RadarOnline report.

U.S. Postal Inspectors interviewed the witness after opening a new investigation into whether Sandusky shared child pornography.

The witness, who "has a strong tie to the booster he is accusing," claims that Sandusky and the fundraiser abused two boys on a private plane in Pennsylvania, the site reported. RadarOnline's unidentified source doesn't know whether the two boys are among Sandusky's previously identified victims.

EvilAL

(1,437 posts)
91. Well then,
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:47 PM
Aug 2012

even though the numbers aren't as high snd the cover-up very small in comparison, there seems to have been some shit going on there, and in that case I could honestly say it wasn't just one bad apple and would I not support that school or any similar ones. I'm not very knowledgable on the penn state fiasco, thanks for the info..

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
88. Support it how? Do we allow it have a tax-exempt status? That's a political choice, not ours.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:19 PM
Aug 2012

The Administration could, if it want to do so, conduct an investigation to determine whether it should continue to have a tax exempt status.

Do we fail to conduct any RICO investigation? Again, that's a political choice, not ours.

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