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pinto

(106,886 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:43 PM Jan 2012

Shiite and Sunni: What are the differences? (CS Monitor)

Found this primer, of sorts, interesting - especially in light of recent events in Iraq. ~ pinto

Sectarian tensions are flaring in Iraq with the suicide bombing of a Shiite religious procession Saturday that killed at least 53 people and a ruling by an Iraqi court today that the country's Sunni vice president must stand trial in the capital. The procession was commemorating Arbaeen, one of the major holidays in the Shiite calendar. The festival comes at a time of stridently sectarian politics in Iraq, with the Shiite-led government of Nouri al-Maliki at loggerheads with the Sunni-backed minority in the parliament.

We take a look at the differences – and similarities – between Sunni and Shiite below.


- Dan Murphy, Staff Writer

1. What are the origins of the Sunni and Shiite sects?

Both sects are Muslim. They believe the Koran is the direct word of God, passed down to the prophet Muhammad in a series of revelations before his death. They pray in the direction of Mecca, and share the same dietary and general social restrictions.

Their schism lies in disputes over who would succeed Muhammad as leader of the faithful after his death in 632. The Shiites thought the prophet’s son-in-law and cousin should lead as caliph, particularly given his blood relationship to Muhammad. Their opponents, the Sunnis, thought Abu Bakr, one of Mohammad’s first converts, should be their leader.

The Shiites lost a series of wars for power in the early years of Islam and today are the clear minority in global Islam, making up about 15 percent of adherents. They are in the majority in Iraq and Iran.

2. What are the religious differences?

Shiite Islam is far more hierarchical than Sunni Islam. Shiites venerate the ancestors of Muhammad in a way that Sunnis do not. Almost all religious Shiites follow an Ayatollah, a senior Islamic scholar, as an “object of emulation.” They follow their Ayatollah’s edicts on how to square the facts of modern life with Islamic doctrine. Sunni Islam is far “flatter” in its organization, with less of a formal process needed to become a preacher and far less centralization of clerical power. In this respect, the differences between Shiite and Sunni Islam superficially approach the differences between the Catholic Church and most Protestant denominations.


The Kaaba, the holiest site in Islam, in Mecca. (Hassan Ammar/AP/File)

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
1. Good analysis.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:12 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:59 PM - Edit history (1)

I always remember that one is focused on hierarchical bloodlines and the other isn't, but have trouble which is which.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
2. Me too. I differ with the author's analogy with the Protestant / Catholic split a bit.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:55 PM
Jan 2012

I think the differences are more akin to the separation of Christians from Jews in the 1st century over who was "the one", the "messiah" of prophesy.

That said, I found the differences in ritual interesting. Wasn't aware of them. And I'm interested in ritual, in general. Clocks are a ritual, imo, a construct of sorts. As are days, weeks and months. Yet all are an accepted construct we use as a framework in our lives.

While the latter are based on the movement of the earth around the sun and the religious frameworks are based on an established set of observances, I find them really similar.

I don't get up at the same time every day nor do I go to church every week. But both have some meaning in my life.



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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
3. Apparently the Shiites do not engage in suicide bombings
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:48 PM
Jan 2012

I once searched fairly diligently for suicide bombings by Shiites and couldn't find any. All the instances where the sect was identified were Sunnis.

The only exception was possibly the van driver in the attack on the Marine barracks in Beirut. However, that would probably qualify as a military, rather than terrorist, operation.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
7. Some, and usually against military targets
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jan 2012

Bombings were mainly in Lebanon and against US and British embassies, as well as the US, French and Israeli forces.

Attacks on things like CIA stations or Shin Bet offices are not really terrorist attacks. Bombings of buses carrying civilians, cafes and restaurants, etc. have usually been by Sunnis.

Hezbollah's Employment of Suicide Bombing During the 1980s: The Theological, Political, and Operational Development of a New Tactic

http://www.army.mil/professionalWriting/volumes/volume4/november_2006/11_06_1.html

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
5. The Shiite:Sunni = Catholic:Protestant analogy is one I've heard before
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 02:58 AM
Jan 2012

I guess the Alawites would be Mormons and Druze would be Jehova's Witnesses or something if you want to continue the analogy.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
6. Bit more in it than that of course, but good to see people trying
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:27 AM
Jan 2012

to explain it all. Needn't go into trivia about the 12th Imam and disputed hadith and all that to get the basics across. It would have been nice to go into some of the minor sects like Sufi and Wahhabi etc too. There is a lamentable ignorance about religions other than Christianity (although plenty about that one too) in the US. It's hard to make sense of the activities of religious groups both malign and benign when you are clueless about their origins.

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