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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 05:02 PM Jan 2012

Virginia lawmaker: Children with disabilities are God’s punishment to women who previously had abort

YEs, this is an old article, but its worth revisiting.

How are people like this electable? I think THAT is the real problem with religion in this country, it is keeping people ignorant and voting for idiots like this. THIS is the fight that progressive believers should be fighting, IMO. They should be fighting the institutionalized willful ignorance forced upon members of the congregations.

But I am afraid that it will never happen, as doing so only exposes the absurdity of it all.



On Thursday, Virginia State Delegate Bob Marshall (R) spoke at a press conference against state funding for Planned Parenthood. He blasted the organization for supporting a women’s right to choose, saying that God punishes women who have had abortions by giving them disabled children:

“The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children,” said Marshall, a Republican.

“In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest.”


Marshall is also fighting against health care reform, saying that “Obamacare” is trying to take “your soul.” Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin has been pushing back against high-profile figures and entities who have been attacking people with disabilities. Will she speak out against someone in her own party?

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/02/22/83337/disabled-abortion/
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Virginia lawmaker: Children with disabilities are God’s punishment to women who previously had abort (Original Post) cleanhippie Jan 2012 OP
Yeah, this will bring in some converts. Wait Wut Jan 2012 #1
a human pig Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #2
Yeah, of course that's the reason, all women who give birth to MarkCharles Jan 2012 #3
Electing problems tama Jan 2012 #4
Easy to say when you are on the outside looking in. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #5
I'm not outside tama Jan 2012 #6
How Christian of him... n/t backscatter712 Jan 2012 #7
class guy... deacon_sephiroth Jan 2012 #8
Patently false. No such statistic exists. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #9
What the fuck are you talking about? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #10
Not her, but I don't get the post either cbayer Jan 2012 #11
WHOA! Generic "You!" I was talking about people who take such pulled-out-of ass stuff as gospel! 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #12

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
1. Yeah, this will bring in some converts.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 05:04 PM
Jan 2012

Nothing like a selfish, tantrum-throwing God to make ya wanna just hallaluja all over the place.

 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
3. Yeah, of course that's the reason, all women who give birth to
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:10 PM
Jan 2012

a child with a disability should be ashamed of themselves.

Of course, statistics and facts never entered into this.

About 2/3rds of women who give birth to a child with a major birth defect never had an abortion, nor a miscarriage, but who bothers with the facts if one can make a statement and get people to give one money?

Such arrogance and such a disgusting misogynistic statement, from none other than a man, contributor of 1/2 the genes of every child born, and those genes from one sperm are responsible for over 60-80% of birth defects in babies. But who's counting when men are involved?

"Research on Birth Defects Shifts to Flaws in Sperm"

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/01/science/research-on-birth-defects-shifts-to-flaws-in-sperm.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
4. Electing problems
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:35 PM
Jan 2012

Blaming religion is the easy part, or just generally blaming. What is more challenging is to start questioning the wisdom of representative democracy, and to grow out of hating stupid people who elect the wrong types...

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
6. I'm not outside
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jan 2012

I'm on the same planet, under same global capitalism, under same system (or similar enough) "representative" "democracy". In a country of "pagan" indigenous people that was conquered by papal order by Swedish crusaders, where ordinary people still, after hundreds of years, still suffer from many similar problems as native Americans. It does not really help that physical occupation by foreigners has morphed into mental occupation by ourselves.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
9. Patently false. No such statistic exists.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 01:38 PM
Jan 2012

But it doesn't matter if it tittilates your twisted beliefs, right?

I might as well say being a Red Sox fan makes your hair fall out. Lots of New Yorkers would agree.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
10. What the fuck are you talking about?
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jan 2012

What "twisted beliefs" are you blathering about?

Or are you just another reincarnation of the one that keeps coming here, spewing nonsense, and getting banned?

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
12. WHOA! Generic "You!" I was talking about people who take such pulled-out-of ass stuff as gospel!
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 02:47 AM
Jan 2012

Not you! Hold your fire! Sorry for the misunderstanding!

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