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I am currently putting together the plans for a massive road trip this spring, and discovered yesterday that we can go right through this town. This is the newest, shiniest creation museum in the US.
On the plus side, I think it will be a hilarious cultural experience and I want to observe the other people who are there for a serious visit.
On the negative, it is not inexpensive and I am concerned that my husband will behave in such a way that they will throw us out within minutes.
So.....
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Yes, definitely make a stop at the Creation Museum | |
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No, drive as quickly as you can away from the Creation Museum | |
3 (33%) |
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kairos12
(12,843 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)and absolutely hilarious way to spend an afternoon.
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GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)say, 'I'm from out of town and needed a laugh or two. This is a comedy theme park isn't it? It's satire, right? I mean anyone who paid attention in school with a couple of brain cells to rub together would know this had to be meant as a joke.'
You would have to seem to be honest. People would be flummoxed that someone would seriously think it was a joke.
If I ever get by there I will definitely do that very thing.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)lastlib
(23,163 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)pinto
(106,886 posts)Wear a colander cap, though.
On second thought, nix that suggestion.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)They have them all over the country, but this one is new.
No colander cap, but some kind of snappy t-shirt might do.
nonoyes
(261 posts)denies tens of thousands of children from having a decent science education.
shraby
(21,946 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)I guess we could just stop there and wander around the outside for awhile. Actually, that might be the best idea.
locks
(2,012 posts)Inquiring minds need to know. That's why I watch FOXnews, Hannity and O'Reilly, and of course Limbaugh.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)It would be a hoot. Maybe take pictures and post them along with a report? I totally understand your question...
cbayer
(146,218 posts)It would justify paying them, because I could then use it to expose them.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Can you write it off as a religious/political donation?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)I live nearby, across the Ohio river in Ohio.
I have never been and do not intend to go, not have I ever spoken with anyone who has been there.
It's my opinion that they get a number of home-schoolers in groups, etc.
However, if the Creation Museum is of interest to you, for whatever reason, then visit.
Re cost - they often advertise specials - 2 for 1, etc.
You might call or email, and ask about special pricing.
Good luck, and let us know what you think.
P.S. - there are so many good things to see and visit in the region, I'm not sure that I'd spend my time at the Creation Museum.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I'm open to other suggestions in the area. We will just be driving through, no plans to stay more than maybe a motel stop.
Thanks!
okasha
(11,573 posts)but according to the website, the hubster could get in free on Father's Day. There are also free days for veterans.
Edited to add: I think I'd be unable to resist asking who--er, what--that impressive-looking T. rex ate on the Ark.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I would like to go armed with difficult questions and feign ignorance. My husband could most certainly pull this off with his British accent.... if he could resist laughing out loud.
rexcat
(3,622 posts)Jungle Jim's (http://www.junglejims.com/) rather than the Creationist Science Museum. This is one of the top 10 food destinations in the country and is located north of Cincinnati and just north of the I-275 loop. We do our grocery shopping there at least once a month and the reason we don't go more often is the impulse spending is prohibitive! When we have company in town and we have the time we take them to Jungle Jim's. The Creation Science Museum is not worth the time or money.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Have you been to the Creation Science Museum. I thought PZ Meyer's review of it was interesting (linked elsewhere in this thread).
We could do both Jungle Jim's and the museum while in the area, as we will be in no hurry. If I could just find a way to get into the museum for free, I would ink it in.
rexcat
(3,622 posts)that did the museum but I could not bring myself to go. I have read several articles and I would not spend my hard earned money to go there. The museum gets a lot of traffic, especially in the summer, from people who do not believe in science and getting free tickets might be a stretch!
There is a lot to do in and around the area. Up at Wright-Patterson AFB, near Dayton, OH and only about 1 hour away from Cincinnati, they have an excellent museum and it is almost as good as the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum and it is free. In Lexington, KY they have the Kentucky Horse Park (highly recommended). If your going near Cleveland, OH the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is superb. When we went there a couple of years ago I thought it was going to be hokey but I was totally wrong. The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is worth the trip even if it is out of your way.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)We have a very long stretch between coasts with not much planned so far. We tend to stay off highways and love to explore quirky or weird places, but occasionally sneak in something more legitimate.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)so you can see first hand what mixing religion and science looks like.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Depends on how much desire you have to experience one element of current American culture, I suppose.
For my money, and since you're in the area, I'd probably opt for one of the snake-handling services. I hear the music is good, and it's free (well, you might have to bring a potluck dish if they indulge in such things)...
I'm thinking of all the other stuff I could do with 60 bucks on a road trip.
Still, as someone above pointed out, Roadside America is where it's at.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Between that and road food.com, the whole trip is planned around oddities and local food.
We call our trips "No Chains" because we completely avoid chain restaurants, motels and other kinds of store. And we mostly stay off the highway.
But $60 is steep for our usual forays into the weirdest stuff in the US.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)It's the only way to go!
Notafraidtoo
(402 posts)As fun as it would be to giggle at the crazy stuff there like ancient children petting dinosaurs in the exhibits, giving them money to promote teaching children this crap in public school is more support then they deserve.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)to get in there for free.
longship
(40,416 posts)He kind gives an overview of it, with some appropriate specifics.
He also says: Go, be polite, but have fun.
You know, if you go, you're going to have to file an on the scene report here in the DU Religion Forum.
I am with PZ.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)way in terms of going to see it or not.
I don't like the idea of the taser-laden guards, but some of this sounds really funny.
Would you go?
(P.S. - I will definitely post my own report if we do decide to go).
longship
(40,416 posts)But I am not you, cbayer. You have to decide if it's worth it to you. $60.00 a couple is kind of steep. You two could spend all day at Disneyland for that (minus food costs).
I would eschew argument, but not open laughter, eye rolls, face palms, and other silent disapproval. I would also be taking notes and pictures. In my current financial position I would have to pass, though.
Please let us know.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)he enjoys really odd exhibits and places.
The problem here is how seriously they take themselves. I am seriously concerned that they would throw us out in short order.
Still putting the itinerary together, but will let you know!
longship
(40,416 posts)I presume you wouldn't disrupt. Certainly they can't throw you out for merely having fun. Isn't that what it's all about?
How dare you smile/chuckle at our exhibits!?
Go stealth. Wear a cross pendant around your neck. Then, giggle openly at the exhibits. And, whatever you do, don't forget to take a pic of you riding the triceratops. It's apparently what all the heathens do there.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)The triceratops is a sure thing!
Now, if I could only figure out how to get in without giving them any of my money, we'd be set!
pinto
(106,886 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)but couldn't afford it unless we slept in our car that night.
Thought I might test some of their "christian" values....
but, then again, I'm a really bad liar.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)So, if you can pass as a man... I would dress up like a dude and go with hubby on Father's day. I would also hold hands and be sure to have at least one "inappropriate kiss". I can hear the heads popping now if you could pull it off.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I could still dress like a guy, though.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I wish I could pass, but I look way too female.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Not sure if I could pass, but probably not.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Not sure if I could go through that place without laughing my butt off or getting angry depending on my mood and what clap trap they are trying to push.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)and videotape each other doing just that.
Then we could put together a narrated video (something my husband does very well) that could be freaking hilarious.
Maybe it's not so bad to give them our money if we could put something on youtube that would really expose them.
Like an undercover documentary!!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)pinto
(106,886 posts)And I've held to that. Stayed 3 days across the street in a hotel for a work conference but that's the closest I've ever gotten.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I have only been once since coming out here because no one else I know wants to go.
But I would go again in a heartbeat if I had a companion.
I first went there as a child. Subsequently, I took my kids to Disneyworld on 2 different trips.
Maybe I can take my grandchildren some day.... assuming I have them.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Train from here goes right into Anaheim and I've got the family in LA for a layover. It'd be a cultural day trip!
And as a political aside, Disney holds a welcoming gay day every year. It's kind of neat for an iconic American theme park to make that statement of support.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Would love to get together at Disneyland!
I know many who have been to Disney's gay day, and they all loved it.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)And get hubby good and drunk before you go in. Take a camcorder. It'll be a riot.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)yes.
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)I don't think I'm gonna do this, though she can be extremely persuasive at times. I'll play it by ear and see what kind of mood I'm in at the time. I remember visiting the Basilica of Santa Chiara (St. Claire) in Assisi many years ago. It was kinda cool until this nun emerged from the shadows and started soliciting donations. I pretended not to understand, but she pitched me in at least ten languages. I shrugged incomprehension and mumbled a few phrases I remembered in Welsh, the only language she appeared not to understand.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)But you could be a DU celebrity. Maybe even bigger than MFM, and would wouldn't even have to take your pants off. Unless you want to. Just sayn'.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)I would, in spite of how much it would burn me to fork over the cash to them. I couldn't pass up such an opportunity. It would be fascinating to watch the other visitors. I have a suspicion that a large number of the visitors, maybe even a majority, are not creationists at all. They're there for the same reasons you (or I) would be. Anyway, I agree with you that the peoplewatching would be the real entertainment, as well as a learning experience.
On the other hand, suppose you go in and find it's just chock-a-block full of people who do take it seriously. Yikes. Especially if there were a lot of children, with adults they trust telling them that the exhibits are accurate representations of how it all happened. That would be depressing.
I think you should go.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I'm going to start searching for some coupons or something, as the one hold up here is that I don't want to give them any money.
It would just seem a shame to drive by there and not see it.
Maybe there is a secret hand code for those who are there just for the "what the hell?" experience. Need to research that as well.
Thanks for your thoughtful input here. This was the answer I really wanted, lol.
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)"chock-a-block full of people".
I believe they don't release attendance figures.
jeepnstein
(2,631 posts)Trust me on this one. I've been there. And as a Christian I have to tell you it was more than I could bear. That's an awful lot of money spent just to stuff God into some theological box to suit one man.
If the Dead Sea Scrolls are still on display in Cincinnati you'd be better off seeing that.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)really offer up something of value? If not, why did you go?
jeepnstein
(2,631 posts)Quite a few members of my congregation rave about how great it is, so I thought I'd better check it out for myself.
It's a shame. With that kind of funding they could have really done something special.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I'd be planning some awesome crazy questions to ask the poor folks they have working there.
Who cleaned up the Brontosaurus poop on the Ark?
so on.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Interesting that the poll is so split here. My biggest drawback right now is that I don't want to give them my money, but I'm working on a solution to that.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)more, but can't afford it. Maybe they'll buy you tickets.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I could tell them that I would have to skip eating for a day or sleep in my car if I visited them.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)or such, particularly once you get close to it.
Would you go if you didn't have to pay?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)So probably no.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)The guards armed with tasers is a little disturbing though.
TlalocW
(15,374 posts)And a good story.
TlalocW
cbayer
(146,218 posts)TlalocW
(15,374 posts)Challenge and adventure!
TlalocW
cbayer
(146,218 posts)the wallpaper" kind of person.
Anyway, my latest thought about this is to act like we are one of them, videotape the whole thing, then make a short documentary about our visit, which could be hilarious.
What do you think? We could get ourselves thrown out at the end and get our money back, too!
Tyrs WolfDaemon
(2,289 posts)Then as you examine each exhibit, you ought to say (in a voice just loud enough to be heard by the others looking at the same exhibit)things like: "This is just wrong. Those raptor dinos were never that color and they had wonderful feathers." you could look at the person next to you and add something like "Dino quills made for better pens than most bird feathers".
You can also comment on the saddles they show being used and how you had western style saddles back then since people used the faster large raptors to herd cattle.
There are so many potential conversation starters! "Did you know that Noah had a pet pygmy T-Rex?" "Those large herbivore dinos are kosher. They were good for things like steaks and stews."
cbayer
(146,218 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)and demand a sidesaddle for the Triceratops ride.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Tyrs WolfDaemon
(2,289 posts)I would do my best to assure them that you don't know me. Whether they would believe me, Odin only knows.
I just had another great idea.
It would be fun to go in wearing some of my Viking garb and tell stories to anyone that will listen as I move from exhibit to exhibit. I can hear it now. "Mommy, I want to listen to the Viking Man tell us how they used to hunt and butcher dinosaurs! He even said that he has ridden a dragon before! Can we take his tour...Pleeeeeeaaaasssseeee!"
"Why did God have to tell Noah how to build the ark? Couldn't he have just asked the Vikings to build one for him? It would have been cooler with a dragon head on the front."
If I did well enough, perhaps we might hear: "Daddy, why don't they tell us about the Vikings in bible class? It sounds like they protected people from the bad dinos back in bible days!" and better yet, "Does the gift shop sell Thor's Hammer pendants next to the crosses?"
cbayer
(146,218 posts)sign a document before go in that requires you to be respectful of their facilities.
Now, I'm not sure exactly what they mean by that, but I think they might spot you right away in a Viking costume!
Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)is becoming part of the problem, not the solution
cbayer
(146,218 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Preferably with pictures of your fellow pilgrims.
Sorta like "people of Walmart".
cbayer
(146,218 posts)a photo montage.
Could be a hoot!
goldent
(1,582 posts)The museum owners must be well aware of what people think about the place, and that many people just come for the laughs, and to feel a little better about themselves.
So I wondering the museum owners feel really stupid and embarrassed about their business, as they bring in each days take to the bank. And in reality they are sticking it to their customers as much as possible.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I don't think they are packing the place, but wonder if there is some kind of program in place through churches that gives them discounts. The high price may be there to keep the riffraff (like me) out.
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)these assholes? $60 is a good meal for two-I'd think long and hard before wasting it on those guys. Sur eits good for shits and giggles but overall-what a joke....