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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu May 2, 2013, 03:50 PM May 2013

Military Scours Ranks For Christian 'Haters'

A congressman asks why emails describe supporters of traditional marriage as members of hate groups while the Pentagon vets a religious tolerance guide with a group that compares Christian evangelism to "rape."

When Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel recently appeared before Congress, he was grilled by Rep. Randy Forbes, R-Va., about an email sent by an officer at Fort Campbell, Ky., to three dozen subordinates, warning them to be on the lookout for soldiers connected with "domestic hate groups."

Among the groups listed in the 14-page email by Lt. Col. Frank Rich, the Second Battalion, 506th Infantry Regiment Commander at Fort Campbell, were Christian organizations such as the American Family Association and Family Research Council (FRC), immigration reform groups such as the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), and Atlas Shrugs, run by Pamela Geller and monitoring global jihadist activity.

Officers are advised to look for uniformed members of these groups, described as anti-gay, anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/050113-654364-army-looks-for-christian-hate-group-members.htm#ixzz2SAOWYezp
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Military Scours Ranks For Christian 'Haters' (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2013 OP
I found this part interesting. rug May 2013 #1
Following precedents Half-Century Man May 2013 #2
This is what GWB's military did. longship May 2013 #3
Denial LostOne4Ever May 2013 #4
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
1. I found this part interesting.
Thu May 2, 2013, 03:53 PM
May 2013
Agreeing with Lt. Col. Rich is Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. He has been hired by the Pentagon as a consultant to help shape policy on — we are not making this up — religious tolerance.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
2. Following precedents
Thu May 2, 2013, 04:20 PM
May 2013

When the military was integrated by Harry Truman (EO 9981), resistance to integration existed for many years. Overt and covert disobedience continued. I can vouch for its existence as late as 1983 in the US Navy, aboard the USS Eisenhower (CVN-69). Granted, at this point it was little more than lip service traded back and forth between servicemen who would never had done anything outright. On both sides of the color line. And instantly vanished during times of trouble. The military had a list of organizations, membership in one would result in counseling, punishment and then expulsion (ex, Klu Klux Klan, Black Panthers, National Socialist Worker Party, Communist Party, and American Indian Movement)
Why shouldn't the military use current technology to do what they have been doing all along?
If one practices hate speech even if one is in the local majority, You should be watched.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. This is what GWB's military did.
Thu May 2, 2013, 04:43 PM
May 2013

They eliminated military clergy by reclassifying all Christian sects as simply Christian. That way they could use fundamentalist clergy to preach to those sects which are noted as being "liberal" (Congregationals, for instance). Under previous rules, there would have been a percentage of Congregational clergy proportional to number of Congregational soldiers.

Of course, all the clergy selected were conservative sects. We saw how this worked out at the Air Force Academy and other places when, for instance, Jews were called Jesus killers, or some sort of the same.

Mickey Weinstein has documented many ofl these excesses. He was an Air Force officer and an atheist. He founded the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

Under Bush II, the military became nearly equivalent to a religious cabal.

Religion poisons everything.
Christopher Hitchens

LostOne4Ever

(9,283 posts)
4. Denial
Fri May 3, 2013, 06:14 AM
May 2013

These people and the person who wrote that article are in denial.

Groups like the FRC are NOT supporters of "traditional marriage" they are bigots who try to use their religion as a cover for their hate. They are taking advantage of some believers tendency to assume that anything religious could not be bigoted or hate filled. If this was a group of non-believers most of those people would be all too eager to believe the worst about them.

They aren't for "traditional" marriage. What they want is to actively discriminate against homosexuals and deny them equal rights.

If a group opposed inter-racial marriage and compared the people who took part in it to people taking part in bestiality, and took active steps to get laws put into place that discriminate against the inter-racial couples they wouldn't be a hate group? The FRC goes further than that, they want to make homosexuality illegal altogether.

Hell, the FRC is far more insidious than Fred Phelps and his followers at the WBC. No one in their right mind would take the WBC seriously, but the FRC tries to come across as ordinary people.

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