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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:51 AM Aug 2013

Attempt To Recruit Christian Workers Violates State And Federal Law

The director of operations of a Subway franchisee, in West Virginia, sent letters to several churches and congregations saying his company was “in need of Christian employees.” I’m sure some people will not see the problem with such a letter, after all a business should be able to make hiring decisions that prefer a particular group of people. Some may think the guy was just trying to reach out to a segment of people to recruit more workers. The problem is that such outreach is actually against state and federal law.

Kermit Ball, the director of operations for Hammond Group Inc., which owns the Subways, sent the letter, publishing employment opportunities at the restaurants. It was sent to at least four churches and congregations in the Charleston and Huntington areas.

The letter, and subsequent statements from Ball, seem to imply that Hammond Group Inc. would prefer to hire Christian employees, finding them more honest.

The letter, in part, reads: “Due to changing times, we are looking for good honest people. If you have anyone in your congregation in need of a job, or new career, please have them contact us at the address provided above. We are looking for sandwich artists, shift managers, assistant managers and supervisers. The Hammond Group owns and operates 20 Subway restaurants. We are a Christian based company and in need of Christian employees.”

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Attempt To Recruit Christian Workers Violates State And Federal Law (Original Post) SecularMotion Aug 2013 OP
Patently illegal. rug Aug 2013 #1
And what "changing times" do you mean, Mr. Ball? tanyev Aug 2013 #2
If Christians are so honest than why are the majority of those in prison Christians? LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #3
It's foolish - at least - to use prison demographics to describe a group. rug Aug 2013 #5
Why? LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #11
What conclusions do you draw based on the racial makeup of prisoners? rug Aug 2013 #16
Where did race come into the question? LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #17
It's part of demographics. You cannot selectively use characteristics. rug Aug 2013 #18
It wasn't the demographics you were questioning or part of the topic. LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #19
You were the one bringing up a prison population to make a spurious point. rug Aug 2013 #21
Where do you get that information? Is it different than the general population? cbayer Aug 2013 #9
Source LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #12
That's where I thought you got it. cbayer Aug 2013 #13
The article explicitly states: cannot provide an accurate estimate of religious affiliation ... Jim__ Aug 2013 #14
Probably because the majority of those in American society align with Christianity jmowreader Aug 2013 #20
It is illegal Jenoch Aug 2013 #4
Bcause it simultaneously denies employment to someone in a protected class. rug Aug 2013 #6
I don't think assumptions Jenoch Aug 2013 #7
If a lawsuit was filed, that assumption would need to be backed by evidence. rug Aug 2013 #8
This seems obviously illegal. cbayer Aug 2013 #10
Highly illegal and immoral. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #15
Yeah it's illegal! gopiscrap Aug 2013 #22

LiberalFighter

(50,830 posts)
11. Why?
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:51 AM
Aug 2013

It is more foolish to say that Christians are morally better than those without or of another religion.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
16. What conclusions do you draw based on the racial makeup of prisoners?
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 06:22 PM
Aug 2013

Answer your own question.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
21. You were the one bringing up a prison population to make a spurious point.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 05:57 PM
Aug 2013

If you bring something up, don't be surprised at what comes up with it.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. Where do you get that information? Is it different than the general population?
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:28 AM
Aug 2013

What is the percentage of those with other religious beliefs or no religion in prison? Is it different than the general population?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
13. That's where I thought you got it.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:39 PM
Aug 2013



You might not want to use this particular set of stats to make your point. Since approximately 76% of americans identify as christian, this data would show that they are underrepresented in the prison population.

FWIW, I think this data is faulty anyway. It was obtained from prison chaplains and is not true demographic data (which, IIRC, is not publicly available).

Jim__

(14,073 posts)
14. The article explicitly states: cannot provide an accurate estimate of religious affiliation ...
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:59 PM
Aug 2013
The Pew Forum survey also asked each chaplain to estimate the approximate percentage of inmates in the prison(s) where he or she works that identify with each of 12 religious groups. Of course, some chaplains may have quite a bit of knowledge and others rather little knowledge about the religious preferences of inmates. And, even if chaplains had perfect information about the relative distribution of religious groups among inmates, these findings are not weighted in proportion to the size of each prison’s population and thus cannot provide an accurate estimate of religious affiliation among the U.S. prison population. Nonetheless, these findings offer an impressionistic picture of the religious context in which chaplains work.


Also, an interesting note from the Appendix C:


 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
4. It is illegal
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:11 AM
Aug 2013

to deny employment due to the religious affiliation of the applicant. Is it illegal to HIRE someone because of their religious affiliation?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
6. Bcause it simultaneously denies employment to someone in a protected class.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:15 AM
Aug 2013

Assuming more than one person applied.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
7. I don't think assumptions
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:22 AM
Aug 2013

would have a legal standing.

I remember a Seinfeld episode where Elaine got upset because she thought Monk's was only hiring big-breasted waitresses. It turned out they were all daughters of the owner.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. If a lawsuit was filed, that assumption would need to be backed by evidence.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:25 AM
Aug 2013

For purposes of this post, an assumption will do.

Besides, Elaine was too unstable to be a waitress.

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