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rug

(82,333 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 05:56 PM Sep 2013

Man found guilty of murdering atheist friend in argument over existence of God

Douglas Yim now faces 126 years to life in prison

Rob Williams
Thursday 05 September 2013

A 33-year-old Oakland man has been found guilty of shooting his friend dead during an alcohol and cocaine-fueled argument over the existence of God.

Douglas Yim, who now faces 126 years to life in prison when sentenced in November, killed 25-year-old Dzuy Duhn Phan in April 2011 after a night of drinking alcohol, smoking marijuana and snorting cocaine.

A third man, Paul Park, testified that Phan and Yim began discussing God as they played video games, with Phan verbally provoking Yim about his belief in God and asking him where God was when he lost a game.

Mr Phan also raised the subject of Yim's father's death from a stroke at which point a furious Yim hurled the console controller at the television and retreated to his bedroom to fetch an assault rifle. He returned to the room with his AR-15 rifle and shot Phan, who was reportedly an atheist, six times.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-found-guilty-of-murdering-atheist-friend-in-argument-over-existence-of-god-8800132.html

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libodem

(19,288 posts)
4. Back in my days studying values clarification
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:17 PM
Sep 2013

We learned that people will kill and die for their values and beliefs. Humans are like that.

You'd think God would just step off his cloud and show himself to fend off the carnage. But noooooo.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
5. god can't show himself
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:21 PM
Sep 2013

Then he'd have no excuse to send everyone who doesn't think he exists to hell.

What fun would that be?

libodem

(19,288 posts)
8. Oh heck
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:26 PM
Sep 2013

I forgot about the challenging invisibility factor. It ups the need for faith. And without blind obedience what would be the purpose of religion.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. Hmmm.... alcohol, cocaine, video games and an argument about the existence of god.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:25 PM
Sep 2013

What could possibly go wrong?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
19. I do not think strokes are funny.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:08 PM
Sep 2013

Unless we're talking Golf.

(The original form of that line was 'Beep Beep, I'm a truck' and it started an online war between about 10 thousand people in a MMORPG.)

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
10. Also don't forget to throw in an AR-15 ready to hand in the next room.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 10:41 PM
Sep 2013

And for all you RKBA types: Yes, I know that plenty of people have guns, even assault rifles, in the house and don't use them to murder friends who express unwelcome opinions. I also know that plenty of people drive drunk and yet make it home safely, with no harm to themselves or anyone else.

Bad Thoughts

(2,522 posts)
12. Oversensationalized
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 05:27 PM
Sep 2013

This is a common story. A bunch of guys get drunk/high/wasted. They argue about something: sports, politics, beer, women, ... . One has a gun and a temper, committing murder.

The content of this argument seems secondary.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
14. Exactly. They could have been talking about whether the Olive Garden is a great
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 06:19 PM
Sep 2013

restaurant or not.

I remember when guys like this would just beat each other up...

then laugh about it later.

Very sad.

struggle4progress

(118,280 posts)
17. I'm glad they weren't arguing about whether the Green Hornet could beat the Silver Avenger
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:31 AM
Sep 2013

The whole neighborhood might have erupted in flames

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