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Related: About this forumMyths and Facts about the Catholic Sexual Abuse Crisis
The article claims there is no evidence that Catholic priests are more likely to abuse children than other groups of men.
What the article doesnt discuss is the number of allegations made against Catholic priests as opposed to members of other faith communities. I have been representing survivors of childhood sexual abuse for 20 years. I have made claims against the Catholic Church, the Anglican Church, the United Church and the Baptist Church among others.In short, child sexual abuse is not a problem that is limited solely to the Catholic Church.
However, of the hundreds of survivors that I have represented over the past 20 years, the vast majority of victims (over 90%) were abused by Catholic priests. I am not aware of any studies that have compared statistics for criminal charges involving sexual abuse against religious leaders. However, it is obvious to anyone that reads the newspapers that the vast majority of reported cases involve allegations against Catholic priests.
http://atlanticcanada.legalexaminer.com/miscellaneous/myths-and-facts-about-the-catholic-sexual-abuse-crisis/
rug
(82,333 posts)edhopper
(33,466 posts)he had not seen it before.
Is this information now irrelevant?
And since when is this only a latest breaking news forum?
For someone who follows a book written almost two thousand years ago and quotes writers from hundreds of years ago, why do you have a problem with a study just two years old?
rug
(82,333 posts)Enjoy it.
BTW, it's not a study. It's an article by a plaintiffs lawyer.
I will
trotsky
(49,533 posts)It even addresses the topic brought up in another thread - the bogus claim that somehow celibacy is responsible for this crisis.
And it ends with a bang:
So I think the question is not: Does celibacy cause pedophilia?
Rather, a more appropriate question is: "Why has the Catholic Church, as an institution, failed so miserably in taking appropriate steps to protect children around the world from sexual abuse by Catholic priests?"
And why do so many of its members feel it is a sacred duty for them to defend, deflect, and attack in response to anyone pointing this out?
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)and found this article. While celibacy does not cause pedophilia, does it provide cover for pedophiles? This is an interesting point.
Many young men at a very early age were recruited into it before they understood themselves or their own sexual identity. Their psycho-sexual maturation has been put on hold, so to speak, when they go in. So as a result they tend to act out with young people who were more or less the age they were when their maturation process stopped.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)But I have to wonder how many priests knew they were going to be priests, and began denying themselves sexual relationships/activity in the pre-teen years. I suspect it's not many. Hopefully Goblinmonger will chime in here since he has direct experience in the seminary.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)were sexually active in high school like any other teens. Some with girls; some with boys. Yes. One of the guys that is a priest now that I went to school with was somewhat openly gay with his group of friends. We were all cool with that even back in the 80s.
OK, there was this one guy that is a priest now that wasn't sexually active in HS but he had a giant stick up his ass and it had nothing to do with him becoming a priest. He would have been like that in public school, too, I'm sure.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Thanks for the perspective.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)with no factual data to back it up.
It's really just a sales pitch by someone with a vested interest in these cases.
And it's two years old. Looks like he's moved on and expanded his expertise to suing doctors and chasing ambulances based on googling him.
Where in the world do you find this garbage?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)What do you think about this question:
Why has the Catholic Church, as an institution, failed so miserably in taking appropriate steps to protect children around the world from sexual abuse by Catholic priests?
Is that one worth asking (and answering)? Or do you dismiss it because you don't like the guy who asked it?
My money's on the latter.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)By certain people's evasive thinking. Wouldn't hold my breath waiting for useful and respectful discussion on that question.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)are ambulance chasers? No doctor deserves to be sued?
You are going to some fascinating ad homs to apologize for the RCC.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Phrases like "ambulance chasers" are crafted specifically to undermine support for the legal profession and the ability of victims to pursue reasonable compensation.
We shouldn't be using them on DU. I hope cbayer reconsiders and edits her post.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)It leaks here and there. Sometimes it's just a couple of letters.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)You really need to stop that shit.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)because that just wouldn't be right, would it?
rug
(82,333 posts)http://atlanticcanada.legalexaminer.com/motorcycle-accidents/new-changes-to-nova-scotias-automobile-insurance-john-mckiggan-explains/
Heddi
(18,312 posts)Last week you went off because someone posted a blog from a "no-name author" so apparently blogs that haven't been vetted by you are off limits.
Now it's an old article, so that's off limits too.
You really should have one of the hosts of the forum pin your rules for what can and can't be posted so we won't keep making the same mistakes.
dimbear
(6,271 posts)Los Angeles.
By Barbara Jones, Los Angeles Daily News
One priest admitted to fathering a daughter, while another was hustled off to a treatment center after confessing to having sex with a teenage boy.
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Those details are among many contained in a new set of confidential personnel files of six more priests who were accused of molesting children while working for their Roman Catholic religion orders the Vincentians, the Norbertinese and the Augustinians while assigned to parishes in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. The files are the second set to be released this summer and at least a half-dozen more are expected in the coming weeks as religious orders comply with a 2007 settlement with hundreds of clergy abuse victims.
Some of the details were released earlier this year when the archdiocese released thousands of pages on its own priests who were accused of sexual abuse, but the full picture of the problem has remained elusive without records from the religious orders.
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But the 330-page file released Monday by the Vincentians makes it clear that the order and the archdiocese worked together to intercede, spiriting him off to a residential treatment center in Maryland. Both knew of Rodriguezs confession, but no one spoke with police until the boys family filed a police report a month later, according to the file.
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Our editing doesn't let me quote nearly as much as I would prefer. It goes on and on, and refers to a report that goes on for days. My friends, if you don't condemn and abhor this behavior, your moral authority muscles are in atrophied condition.