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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:05 PM Sep 2013

Bill O'Reilly: God Told Me To Write About Jesus

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/26/bill-oreilly-jesus-60-minutes_n_3996925.html

09/26/13 12:36 PM ET EDT



NEW YORK -- Bill O'Reilly says God told him to write his new book, "Killing Jesus: A History."

The Fox News anchor explains in an interview on CBS' "60 Minutes" that one night he awoke with the title of the book in his head. He says he believes he got that message from the Holy Spirit.

O'Reilly says the book is a researched, historic account. Despite its de-emphasis of religion, he is using his special gifts from God in a positive way.

He says it's all part of God's plan for him.

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Bill O'Reilly: God Told Me To Write About Jesus (Original Post) cbayer Sep 2013 OP
I think his loofah is talking to him again. rug Sep 2013 #1
that makes my head hurt madrchsod Sep 2013 #2
Well that makes sense... Deep13 Sep 2013 #3
Yeah, I'm going for your second option, lol. cbayer Sep 2013 #9
Well, you can't prove he's wrong. trotsky Sep 2013 #4
Wait, god IS Jesus, isn't he? PeteSelman Sep 2013 #5
LOL! LeftofObama Sep 2013 #6
Was that via one of Bill's famous phone calls, or does God use Frustratedlady Sep 2013 #7
Of all the people on earth, God chooses to talk to Bill O'Reilly...... madaboutharry Sep 2013 #8
. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #10
I think this guy had better hope okasha Sep 2013 #11
She would have a few things to say. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #12
god could put the loofah where the sun don't shine forever rurallib Sep 2013 #17
And if a god did talk to him, I hope the message would be to shut up already, lol. cbayer Sep 2013 #13
Agreed. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #14
A god that reveals himself in the form of deimorphic tortillas and grilled cheese sandwiches. mysuzuki2 Sep 2013 #15
My gut tells me that Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #16
we've seen god in toast, in rocks, in trees, in paint rurallib Sep 2013 #18
I thought the man was crazy LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #19
Is it Christian to Laochtine Sep 2013 #20
What does this mean exactly? cbayer Oct 2013 #22
If a believer Laochtine Oct 2013 #24
Of course believers should question that. cbayer Oct 2013 #25
Shouldn't they then also question when someone says... trotsky Oct 2013 #29
Well those are direct quotes from Matthew 5. Not quite the same thing as saying God gave you a yellowcanine Oct 2013 #33
Ah, I see! trotsky Oct 2013 #35
You quoted the New Testament, which is accepted by all major Christian groups. Sorry. yellowcanine Oct 2013 #41
Actually, no, the entire New Testament isn't accepted by all Christian groups. trotsky Oct 2013 #44
I could really use your help with this one: trotsky Oct 2013 #36
How about this guy? trotsky Oct 2013 #37
When most believer say that they say that God has spoken to their heart and through their hrmjustin Oct 2013 #43
Obligation? no but where do you draw the line? Laochtine Oct 2013 #38
Everyone has to draw their own line. cbayer Oct 2013 #45
As a believer I would question them. Personally I think he is a fraud. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #42
So doubting O'Reilly's self serving claim is doubting that God speaks to his flock? yellowcanine Oct 2013 #34
Ty for the lesson Laochtine Oct 2013 #39
You asked "Is it Christian to ...." The NT is the source of Christian belief. yellowcanine Oct 2013 #40
Sad Truth WovenGems Oct 2013 #21
If an atheist were to say about a liberal theist Goblinmonger Oct 2013 #23
I wanted to comment on that as well. trotsky Oct 2013 #27
When someone says God told them to write a book called "Killing Jesus" and their other book is yellowcanine Oct 2013 #30
The more parsimonious explanation is that it was a side effect of a medication he took. yellowcanine Oct 2013 #26
Did you see the 60 minutes interview? cbayer Oct 2013 #32
Apparently God told him to be an asshole too n/t doc03 Oct 2013 #28
That's nice Bill. But nobody gives a shit. n/t Downtown Hound Oct 2013 #31

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
3. Well that makes sense...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:15 PM
Sep 2013

...in Abrahamic religion, God reveals his greatness by acting through humble intermediaries. He supposedly told the unlettered Mohammad to read from a celestial book and write it all. So it would not be out of character for God to choose and ignoramus like O'Reilly to write about Jesus. Apparently, the last four guys He chose managed to screw it up and only Reilly, in his humble meekness can get it right.

Either that or O'Reilly is just a narcissistic, opportunistic asshole.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. Well, you can't prove he's wrong.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:15 PM
Sep 2013

So you have to allow for the possibility he's correct.

Isn't that right, cbayer?

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. Was that via one of Bill's famous phone calls, or does God use
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:17 PM
Sep 2013

a megaphone?

I'm becoming concerned, since so many people who God speaks to are on FAUX's payroll. Must be a perk.

madaboutharry

(40,185 posts)
8. Of all the people on earth, God chooses to talk to Bill O'Reilly......
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:19 PM
Sep 2013

How is it that the only people who God talks to are folks with Narcissistic Personality Disorders?

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
15. A god that reveals himself in the form of deimorphic tortillas and grilled cheese sandwiches.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:10 PM
Sep 2013

is certainly likely to speak to someone like Bill O'Rudely. BTW Bill, god told me to tell you you're an asshole.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
16. My gut tells me that
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:17 PM
Sep 2013

If God actually did speak to this fool,it would be to tell him to shut his stupid trap and keep it shut.

Laochtine

(394 posts)
24. If a believer
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:31 PM
Oct 2013

Hears god and gets an book deal or other idea, should that be questioned by believers?
I'm sorry to be so cryptic to you, I think that way, my bad

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
25. Of course believers should question that.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

Religion (and medicine) are full of scam artists and snake oil salesmen.

Are you suggesting that believers are obligated to believe anything someone who tells them god spoke to them says?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
29. Shouldn't they then also question when someone says...
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:11 PM
Oct 2013

that god told them to feed the hungry, or shelter the homeless?

I don't expect you to have an answer.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
33. Well those are direct quotes from Matthew 5. Not quite the same thing as saying God gave you a
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:20 PM
Oct 2013

book title, is it? One is accepted scripture and clearly a form of altruism, the other is just someone's feeling that could be related to their self serving desire to gain some fame and sell books. But nice false equivalence anyway.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
35. Ah, I see!
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 05:06 PM
Oct 2013

You know what the bible really says, and everyone else is mistaken. Well I wish you would have spoken up earlier! Would you mind going down to Fred Phelps' church and explain to them why they're wrong?

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
41. You quoted the New Testament, which is accepted by all major Christian groups. Sorry.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:31 PM
Oct 2013

Whether or not you believe it, that is what it says. It is not a question of me knowing or not knowing. Fred Phelps doesn't follow New Testament teaching but it is not for me to tell him that. I am sure plenty of people have.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
44. Actually, no, the entire New Testament isn't accepted by all Christian groups.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:33 AM
Oct 2013

In fact, I have no doubts there are parts you reject, such as the misogynistic rantings of Paul. Many Christians would therefore say you aren't being a good Christian yourself.

And there we are. You're being as judgmental and selective as they are.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
36. I could really use your help with this one:
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 05:10 PM
Oct 2013
http://news.yahoo.com/ex-pope-benedict-says-god-told-resign-report-104959018.html

Can you use your special ability to determine if it's OK to mock the former pope for stating that god spoke to him?
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
43. When most believer say that they say that God has spoken to their heart and through their
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:50 PM
Oct 2013

scripture and traditions. If someone tells me that God actually spoke to them I would have a very hard time believing that.

Laochtine

(394 posts)
38. Obligation? no but where do you draw the line?
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 09:00 PM
Oct 2013

Is there a reasonable to crazy meter or does faith rule

Religion (and medicine) are full of scam artists and snake oil salesmen
Medicine can be tested for results

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
45. Everyone has to draw their own line.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 11:43 AM
Oct 2013

Some people are going to believe O'Reilly. others will not.

At any rate, if you wish to paint all religious people as unable to evaluate and make a decision on this one, go ahead. I can't see what purpose it would serve you, though.



yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
34. So doubting O'Reilly's self serving claim is doubting that God speaks to his flock?
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:38 PM
Oct 2013

Anyway doubting, testing those who claim that God speaks to them is part of being Christian. In fact, there are numerous exhortations in the New Testament to do just that. Just a few of many.

1 John 4:1-6 ESV

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. ...

2 Peter 2:1 ESV

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

Matthew 7:15 ESV

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Matthew 7:21 ESV

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 24:24 ESV

For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
40. You asked "Is it Christian to ...." The NT is the source of Christian belief.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:26 PM
Oct 2013

Don't ask that question if you think the NT is irrelevant.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
23. If an atheist were to say about a liberal theist
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:47 PM
Oct 2013

what liberal theists are saying in here about O'Reilly, the outrage would be unbearable. But since O'Reilly is a conservative asshole, it's apparently OK to make fun of his religious beliefs. I hope everyone here remembers this when the Pope is mocked for saying he has knowledge of what god is "saying"/"thinking."

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
27. I wanted to comment on that as well.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:09 PM
Oct 2013

But I figured, what's the point. The hypocrisy of some is just so utterly jaw-dropping, if they don't get it by now they never will.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
30. When someone says God told them to write a book called "Killing Jesus" and their other book is
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:12 PM
Oct 2013

"Killing Lincoln" they deserve to be mocked. This has nothing to do with O' Reilly's religious beliefs. It has everything to do with O'Reilly's belief in his own importance.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
26. The more parsimonious explanation is that it was a side effect of a medication he took.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:05 PM
Oct 2013

And if it is anything like "Killing Lincoln" clearly GAWD had nothing to do with it, because GAWD should be a better historian than all that.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
32. Did you see the 60 minutes interview?
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:15 PM
Oct 2013

He doesn't even really try to hide that he is a scammer. He openly laughs about it.

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