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UrbScotty

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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:04 PM Sep 2013

New Vatican secretary of state: Priest celibacy open for discussion

Archbishop Pietro Parolin, the new Secretary of State of the Vatican, made some surprisingly frank remarks about priestly celibacy that may indicate a new openness to "the democratic spirit of the times." Pope Francis' plans to reform the Vatican and "shake up the church" have received a lot of attention, but he has not yet publicly addressed the issue of mandatory celibacy for priests.

Parolin said in an interview with Venezuelan newspaper El Universal that the tradition of priestly celibacy is not dogma, or a law of divine origin, and is therefore open to discussion. He went on to note that while the church is not a democratic institution, it needs to "reflect the democratic spirit of the times and adopt a collegial way of governing."

While previous popes have declared some topics closed off from discussion, Parolin's remarks may be indicative of the possibility of a greater conversation about an ancient Church tradition.

Though it's not clear exactly when celibacy became mandatory for priests, the first written mandate for chastity dates back to 304 C.E., when Canon 33 of the Council of Elvira stated that all "bishops, presbyters, and deacons and all other clerics" should "abstain completely from their wives and not to have children." A definitive ruling was handed down at the Second Lateran Council of 1139, which ruled that priests were forbidden to marry.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/10/pietro-parolin-priestly-celibacy-not-dogma_n_3901271.html?ref=topbar
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New Vatican secretary of state: Priest celibacy open for discussion (Original Post) UrbScotty Sep 2013 OP
Pope Paul VI wrote a very bad encyclical Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2013 #1

Fortinbras Armstrong

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1. Pope Paul VI wrote a very bad encyclical
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 04:25 PM
Sep 2013
Sacerdotalis Caelibatus -- "Priestly Celibacy", which wholly ignores 1 Corinthians 9:5, in which the Apostle Paul is saying that he has a right to be married. That he chose not to exercise that right is immaterial. Here is a significant biblical passage, touching directly on the subject, which the Pope ignores -- basically, because it shot his argument in the foot.

The official position on celibacy is one of the reasons that I say that the official Church seems to be trying to make the priesthood as unattractive as possible to heterosexual men.
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